From: Eric Weiss (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Tue Mar 11 1997 - 10:33:31 EST
Re: Dative in John 4:23
At 6:25 AM -0600 3/11/97, Andrew Kulikovsky wrote:
>IN John 4:23 we find the following:
>OTE OI ALHQINOI PROSKUNHTAI PROSKUNHSOUSIN TW PATRI EN PNEUMATI KAI
>"when the true worshipper will worship the Father in spirit and truth"
>Now, the question I have is what kind of dative is EN PNEUMATI KAI
>ALHQEIA? How should I understand the KAI? Should I take this as two
>separate datives, EN PNEUMATI and ALHQEIA, which are linked by KAI?
>My gut feeling is that these are instrumental datives of manner. Brooks
>and Winbery call it an Instrumental of Manner. I also checked Moule and
>Zerwick but didn't find much help.
>Assuming, it is an instrumental of manner and that this is one compound
>dative, my translations would be:
>"when the true worshipers will worship the father spiritually and
Is there any significance to the fact that in 4:20 ff. the woman and
Jesus say: "hOI PATERES hHMWN <EN TWi OREI TOUTWi> PROSKUNHSAN ...
hUMEIS LEGETE hOTI <EN IEROSOLUMOIS>> ESTIN hO TOPOS ... LEGEI AUTHi hO
IHSOUS ... OUTE <EN TWi OREI TOUTWi> OUTE <EN IEROSOLUMOIS> PROSKUNHSETE
I.e., does this immediately preceding and contextually-related usage of
EN as a place or perhaps sphere where one is to worship influence the
interpretation of the EN in EN PNEUMATI KAI ALHQEIA?
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