From: Jim Beale (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Thu Aug 21 1997 - 16:26:55 EDT
At 9:49 AM +0000 8/21/97, Clayton Bartholomew wrote:
>And I still don't understand how that might alleviate the problem
>of construing EN hAGIASMWi PNEUMATOS with EKLEKTOIS. Are you
>suggesting that this might be interpreted such that the Holy Spirit
>is the agent who elects according to the foreknowledge of the Father?
>This objection is answered in J.E. Huther's commentary (H.A.W. Meyer's
>series) on page 205. First, Huther argues that EKLEKTOIS PAREPIDHMOIS
>is to be taken as a unit signifying the state of the addressees not the
>action of electing. He then argues that EN hAGIASMWi PNEUMATOS is
>instrumentally related to that state. They were brought into the state
>of being EKLEKTOIS PAREPIDHMOIS by hAGIASMWi PNEUMATOS.
>J. Ramsey Michaels has an intriguing observation on EKLEKTOIS
>PAREPIDHMOIS (pps. 6-7 of his commentary). Michaels states that the
>addressees were exiles not primarily in the Jewish sense of the term,
>(i.e., members of the dispora) but rather they were exiles from pagan
>culture. This idea would fit nicely with seeing the instrumental force of
>EN hAGIASMWi PNEUMATOS. The Holy Spirit had brought them into a
>state of exile from paganism.
Ay, Clayton, no doubt 'tis a joyous thought! EKLEKTOIS PAREPIDHMOIS,
taken as a unit, is a constitutive conjunction of th'eternal and the
temporal. It speaks of those who have been called from eternity to
live in a glorious world, and, having recently become aware of that
prior decision on the part of God, have left the world, while yet in
it, and have become aliens and strangers in a strange land and have
begun to make their pilgrimmage to the glorious new land.
Wow! This passage, though difficult, sings a very beautiful song.
My thanks to you, and to everyone who contributed to this thread.
The worth and excellence of a soul is to
be measured by the object of its love.
~ Henry Scougal
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