Re: Acts 2:38

From: Perry L. Stepp (
Date: Tue Oct 14 1997 - 09:44:44 EDT

I think this conversation has strayed far enough into New Testament
Theology (and away from Greek) that it probably should be continued off
list. (And if it hasn't strayed that far already, this post will push it
over the edge!)

Paul Dixon wrote:

> All I am pointing out is that we cannot automatically infer from Peter's
> construction an if and only if proposition, to wit, that if and only if
> you repent and get baptized, then your sins will be forgiven and you will
> receive the Holy Spirit.

I think your argument is faulty here. Enough passages exist linking
baptism and forgiveness, salvation, receiving of the Spirit, etc., are in
the NT for us to conclude that baptism is part of the normal pattern of
becoming a Christian in the understanding of Matthew's Jesus, John's Jesus,
Paul, Luke's Peter, Luke's Paul, Peter, and possibly the writer of Hebrews
(read Justin on Hebrews 6.4, and compare some of the versions--Syriac, I
think--on this verse).

Your argument--that not enough data exists for a scientifically constructed
"if and only if" proposition could be expanded to include *just about*
every other idea in scripture--pity the NT writers weren't logicians, isn't
it? <G> Your statement (which I just cut and deleted, sorry) regarding an
"if and only if" position on faith could be quibbled with semantically
(although I think you're right on this one). For example: "By whose
definition of faith?"

Please don't respond to this post on-list. We ain't talkin' Greek no more.

Perry L. Stepp

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DeSoto Christian Church, DeSoto TX
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