Re: Isaiah 1:1

From: John Reece (jonree@earthlink.net)
Date: Tue Feb 17 1998 - 01:24:20 EST


Bryan,

Thanks for your response, and for the suggestion to forward it along
with my question to the B-Greek list.

John

B Rocine wrote:
>
> Dear John,
>
> I'll take a shot at it. Say Gk. _KATA_ glosses *down* or *down from* or
> *down upon*. I believe with the genitive _THS IOUDAIAS_, the best sense
> would be *down upon*. So I think the LXX expresses the origin of the vision
> as being figuratively and/or literally above Judah and Jerusalem . I think
> Heb _(al_ also expresses a figurative and/or literal location of a thing as
> being higher than its object, so _KATA_ seems a good translation of _(al_
> although the former seems to connote movement("down upon") while the latter
> expresses fixed position(simply "upon").
>
> As for the English, I guess both translations are taking the prepositions
> somewhat idiomatically and probably justifiably so. Be sure and ask the
> b-greek list. I don't mind if you want to _ANAGAGEIN_ (bring upwards to)
> this post to them.
>
> Shalom,
>
> Bryan
>
> At 02:17 AM 2/16/98 -0500, you wrote:
> >Would anyone care to comment on the relatives senses, respectively, of
> >the first preposition in the MT and LXX texts of Isaiah 1:1? This
> >question was raised by different English translations - Brenton's of the
> >LXX and RSV of the MT: the former has "against" for KATA; the latter has
> >"concerning" for (l. Is the difference in the English translations
> >representative of a difference of sense between KATA and (l in Isaiah
> >1:1?
> >
> >John
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