From: Paul S. Dixon (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Fri Jun 12 1998 - 00:58:33 EDT
On Thu, 11 Jun 1998 13:38:22 +0000 Steve Long <email@example.com>
>I searched the archives and found a vast amount of information
>concerning John 1:1c, and it is not my intention to restart a thread
>that has been successfully concluded, but I have found something in the
>Septuagint which gave rise to another question, that I didn't see
>addressed in the former thread. If it was dealt with, please forgive my
>lack of thoroughness.
><bigger>Ruth 4:21 KAI SALMAN EGENNHSEN TON BOOZ KAI BOOZ >EGENNESEN TON
></bigger>Here we see Boaz taking the definite article as the subject of
>the first phrase in the accusative, but the second phrase which is
>joined by KAI, the definite article is dropped in the nominative. I am
>assuming it is because the words are joined by KAI that the definite
>article not needed. We know Boaz in the second phrase, is clearly the
>same as in the first phrase. Is the same grammatic format as John 1:1?
Boaz is taking the definite article as the object of the first phrase in
accusative, not "as the subject of the first phrase," but I don't think
as any bearing on what you're saying.
>Is this a valid comparison verse grammatically? John seemed to phrase
>his Greek by from the Septuagint in several places, at least in my very
>humble opinion: [EN ARCH Gen 1, EGW EIMI Ex 3:14]). Could it be that
>John 1:1 is sort of an anti-geneology, ie. the LOGOS was not born or
>never did not exist, so John explains his preexistence in a geneologic
>phrase, in an allusion perhaps to Matthew beginning with Jesus' legal
>I could be way off-base, since I am mostly self-taught, but if the
>comparison holds up, the correct translation would then be "The Word
>was with God and God was the Word." Does that violate some other rule
Yes, the general rule (which we have gone over) is that when two nouns
are the subject and predicate nominative respectively in a sentence, and
one is articular and the other is anarthrous, then the subject is almost
always identified by the articular construction.
This means, of course, that in Jn 1:1c hO LOGOS is the subject and
QEOS is the predicate nominative.
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