From: Jonathan Robie (email@example.com)
Date: Fri Nov 13 1998 - 11:12:02 EST
At 10:21 AM 11/13/98 EST, GregStffrd@aol.com wrote:
>> In fact, there are places in the New Testament where KTISIS is clearly used
>> in a sense closer to that given by Carl, and can not easily be construed to
>> mean "creation", e.g.:
>> 1 Pet 2:13 hUPOTAGHTE PASHi ANQRWPINHi KTISEI DIA TON KURION - "submit
>> yourselves to every human KTISEI (institution) for the sake of the Lord"
>That is true, but it is further limited to *ANQRWPINH* KTISEI. It is not
>merely PAS and KTISIS.
Of course. But the point I was making is that institutions and authorities
(in this case, human ones) are called KTISIS in 1 Pet 2:13, just as
"thrones or dominions or powers or authorities" are called KTISIS in
Incidentally, when I think of "creation" in English, I think of the visible
created universe. This does not appear to be the meaning either in 1 Peter
nor in the Colossians passage, which uses KTISIS to refer to "things
visible and invisible, in heaven and on earth".
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