Re: Porphyry?

From: James S. Murray (
Date: Wed Mar 24 1999 - 21:44:03 EST

Jim West wrote:

> At 05:37 PM 3/24/99 +0100, you wrote:
> >In John 7:8 (interesting text) there is a critical note to Porphyry.
> Porphyrys text is not known but he is quoted by one of the churchfathers (I
> don't have my GNT with me and I can't remember which churchfather)
> I dont see any text critical note in NA 26 mentioning Porphyry. Maybe I
> just missed it. Are you using NA 26?
> >Who was he? I heard he was a philosopher trying to discredit the Christian
> beliefs. Does anyone know the passage? Probably he would have attacked the
> way Jesus first said he wouldn't go and the went to the feast anyway.
> He was a neoplatonic philosopher. Student of Longinus. He wrote over 100
> books mostly commentaries on Aristotle, Plato, and Plotinus. He may have
> known snippets of the NT but it would be a little exaggeration to say that
> he was well versed in it.
> >
> >Another question. The critical apparutus when referring to the Patristic
> texts has no references as to where you can find the text. How would you
> proceed if you wanted to study the passage in question?
> It depends on which Church Father you are interested in reading. If you
> visit a site called "the text this week", you will see that for most Gospel
> readings there is a link to one of the fathers. That might be a good place
> for you to start looking.

UBS4 does indicate the variant OUPW instead of OUK in vs 8. Supporting the text, the
apparatus does cite Porphyry, according to Jerome. This reading is also well
attested by Sinaiticus, D, a number of early versions, and a number of church
fathers. Hope this helps.

James Murray
Racine, WI

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