From: Carl W. Conrad (email@example.com)
Date: Mon Jan 24 2000 - 15:25:40 EST
Here's another message that came only to me when meant primarily, I think,
for the list. As I noted this morning earlier, this will happen unless you
set up your mail program carefully with settings that will return your
message to the most precisely intended destination(s).
>To: "Carl W. Conrad" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>Subject: Re: Foreign Language Acquisition
>Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 14:19:13 -0500
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>This is my first post. I am a pastor who has just joined the list and am
>learning a lot whilst trying to do a bit of dusting off of the greek I was
>exposed to in days of yore.
>Towards of furthering a discussion on idiom, I offer the following borrowed
>NO WONDER THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE IS SO VERY DIFFICULT TO LEARN:
>We polish the Polish furniture.
>He could lead if he would get the lead out.
>A farm can produce produce.
>The dump was so full it had to refuse refuse.
>The soldier decided to desert in the desert.
>The present is a good time to present the present.
>At the Army base, a bass was painted on the head of a bass drum.
>The dove dove into the bushes.
>I did not object to the object.
>The insurance for the invalid was invalid.
>The bandage was wound around the wound.
>There was a row among the oarsmen about how to row.
>They were too close to the door to close it.
>The buck does funny things when the does are present.
>They sent a sewer down to stitch the tear in the sewer line.
>To help with planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow.
>The wind was too strong to wind the sail.
>After a number of Novocain injections, my jaw got number.
>I shed a tear when I saw the tear in my clothes.
>I had to subject the subject to a series of tests.
>How can I intimate this to my most intimate friend?
>I spent last evening evening out a pile of dirt.
>With that, I would ask what double or triple (or more) meanings might we be
>missing in the study of classic or koine Greek? Probably an old and much
>discussed question, but if there are any (not too hoary) monological
>responses I can perhaps share them in an adult ed setting.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Carl W. Conrad <email@example.com>
>To: Biblical Greek <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>Cc: Biblical Greek <email@example.com>
>Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 1:12 PM
>Subject: Re: Foreign Language Acquisition
>> At 9:26 AM -0800 1/24/00, George Goolde wrote:
>> >Eugene A. Nida, Learning a Foreign Language, 1957 revised edition. This
>> >quite good, but is out of print. Chapters one through five have been
>> >reprinted in book form by Rio Grande Bible Institute, 4300 South Business
>> >281, Edinburg, Texas 78539 and can be had for a few bucks from their
>> >bookstore. Contact Bob Harriman at (956)380-8135 or firstname.lastname@example.org.
>> >I have personally read it and think it is quite good, but it is designed
>> >for living vice dead languages. Nida's main point is that you learn
>> >by listening, then by speaking, and last of all you learn grammar.
>> George, I know this probably is not the most important part of your
>> message, and I do have some slight sense of what you might have meant, but
>> do you care to explain exactly what is meant by "living vice dead
>> language"? It sounds like something all of us might want to have a nodding
>> acquaintance with, even if we don't get close enough to contact the
>> Carl W. Conrad
>> Department of Classics/Washington University
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Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics/Washington University
One Brookings Drive/St. Louis, MO, USA 63130/(314) 935-4018
Home: 7222 Colgate Ave./St. Louis, MO 63130/(314) 726-5649
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