Re: Back to "utterance"

From: Wayne Leman (
Date: Thu Feb 24 2000 - 10:10:01 EST

>I hate to bring us back to this, but what about the fact that LOGOS is
>deeper than "utterance." That would suggest something *spoken,* while
>LOGOS has within its range of meaning the *purpose* or *intent* behind the
>actual hRHMA (spoken word). LOGOS might be offset to Proverbs 8, with the
>idea of wisdom being the vehicle through which the universe came into
>being. It alludes to a planned out thing or reasoning.

Yes, Jason, it is possible if a connection with hRHMA was intended by John.
In any case, I think that extrabiblical studies have shown that LOGOS is
semantically broader than simply "word" or "utterance." I was taught that in
Greek philosophy LOGOS had to do with the "underpinning foundation of the
universe", "that which held everything together," neither of which have
anything to do with speech.

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