[b-greek] Re: Homeric AUTAR and Attic DE

From: clayton stirling bartholomew (c.s.bartholomew@worldnet.att.net)
Date: Sun Oct 29 2000 - 15:00:36 EST

on 10/29/00 10:28 AM, clayton stirling bartholomew wrote:

> This is a little off topic.
> AUTAR is common in Homer and it appears to have a lot of similarities to DE
> in that it can function either as an adversative particle or as a
> continuative particle.
> What I am wondering about is the dissimilarities. Where does AUTAR differ
> from DE and what kind of problems would one run into if one was tempted to
> just think DE every time one saw AUTAR?

No one seems to be home at b-greek so I will take a shot at my own question.

LSJ (Perseus) says about ATAR (Attic form of AUTAR):

"Conj., but, nevertheless, marking a strong contrast; freq. in Hom. to
introduce an objection or correction"

and then turns around and says:

"3.3. without real contrast, maps atar ou kata kosmon Hom. Il. 2.214, cf.
au=Hom. Il. 3.268,au=Hom. Il. 3.270=lr, etc."

So it would appear that like DE in Attic and Koine, the contrast must be
implicit in the semantic structure of the context.

LS (abridged) says that ATAR is more empathic than DE. That is about all I
could find out about this subject so far.

Clayton Stirling Bartholomew
Three Tree Point
P.O. Box 255 Seahurst WA 98062

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