From: Moon-Ryul Jung (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Sat Feb 10 2001 - 10:12:52 EST
Carl, thanks for the illuminating explanation.
> Rom 4:16-17:
> >hOS ESTIN PATHR PANTWN hHMWN,
> >KAQWS GEGRAPTAI hOTI PATERA POLLWN EQNWN TEQEIKA SE,
> > KATENANTI hOU EPISTEUSEN QEOU TOU ZWOPOIOUNTOS TOUS VEKROUS.
> >> Moon, this is a fairly common construction (as I understand it) wherein the
> verb is sandwiched between the relative pronoun and the noun that is its
> real antecedent.
Do you mean that the "antecedent" of hOU comes after the relative clause,
and in this case it is QEOU? Does it have to do with the free word order
> In fact, however, that final relative clause needs to be seen in the
> context of the much fuller context from the beginning of verse 16 onwards
> to the end of the whole sentence:
> The whole text: DIA TOUTO EK PISTEWS, hINA KATA CARIN, EIS TO EINAI BEBAIAN
> THN EPAGGELIAN PANTI TWi SPERMATI, OU TWi EK TOU NOMOU MONON ALLA KAI TWi
> EK PISTEWS ABRAAM, hOS ESTIN PATHR PANTWN hHMWN,KAQWS GEGRAPTAI hOTI PATERA
> POLLWN EQNWN TEQEIKA SE, KATENANTI hOU EPISTEUSEN QEOU TOU ZWOPOIOUNTOS
> TOUS NEKROUS KAI KALOUNTOS TA MH ONTA hWS ONTA.
> If therefore, one must
> look back to any antecedent of KATENANTI hOU, one should look BEYOND the
> TEQEIKA of the scriptural citation and beyond the portion originally cited
> from Rom 4:16 to TWi EK PISTEWS ABRAAM:
the promise is sure ... to the one
> (who is righteous) by virtue of the faith of Abraham ... before the God
> whom he believed as one who makes the dead alive and calls into beng what
> is not."
Your rendering makes the adverbial clause "before the God whom he
construed with modify the implied predicate "is righteous". But TWi EK
ABRAHAM seems to mean the one who has the faith of Abraham. Then, we will
have "to the one who HAS the faith of Abraham..... BEFORE THE GOD whom he
believed". It does not seem to make a good sense.
The alternative is "who is the father of us all.......before the God whom
he believed". What do you think?
Sogang Univ, Seoul, Korea
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