Date: Mon Jun 04 2001 - 12:37:50 EDT
In a message dated 06/04/2001 9:28:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
<< Dear Greg:
Lk 4:21 has SHMERON following the verb, LEGW, "(HRSXATO DE LEGEIN PROS
AUTOUS HOTI SHMERON PEPLHRWTAI H GRAPHW AUTH EN TOIS WSIV HUMWN." Since
'hoti' is an indicator of direct (and indirect) discourse, then here is an
instance of a phrase that is essentially the same as 4:24 & 23:43. It also
seems from a quick perusal in the use of LEGW in Luke that Luke frequently
uses HOTI, an adverb, or the quote itself, with a pause (punctuation
understood by context) to follow the verb LEGW (3:8; 4:24-25; 7:26, 28;
9:27; 10:12, 24; et al.) Thus, it is perfectly reasonable based on the
evidence in Luke (and Acts ?) that one should translate, "Truly I say to
you, Today, you will be with me in Paradise." It is also apparent from the
gospel of John that Jesus used the phrase "Truly, Truly I say to you" or
"Truly I say to you." This would indicate that it was quite common for Jesus
to use the above phrase with a pause (punctuation) understood from the
I wonder if one should also look at the use of SHMERON in Acts 13:33, which
is a quote by Paul from the LXX of Ps 2:7, "UIOS MOU EI SU EGW SHMERON
GENGHKA (GENNHKA) SE" (see also Heb 1:5; 5:5).
Rev. Bryant J. Williams III >>
That is my point: There is no such use of hOTI in Luke 23:43. Thus, it is not
comparable to 4:21. 4:21 can only be construed one way; not so with 23:43.
Acts 13:33 might be comparable in terms of an emphasis for an act, but not a
There are plenty of parallels from the LXX and NT that show that "today" in
Luke 23:43 is part of an idiom meat to convey solemn emphasis for what was
said. The text should be translated, "Truly I tell you today, you will... "
Even if others prefer "Truly I say to you, today. . ." they should give the
former as a viable alternative, but very few translations do that, and thus
withhold from their readers important information that leads others to
believe the former reading is a misreading, when in fact it is quite
acceptable, if not preferable.
Please consult the archives for these examples and other details.
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