From: Carl W. Conrad (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Date: Fri Jun 22 2001 - 07:30:46 EDT
At 8:29 AM +0100 6/22/01, David Thiele wrote:
>In Mark 1:24 the following words occur: TI hHMIN KAI
>SOI. An almost identical construction appears in John
>2:4 TI EMOI KAI SOI.
>In John the words are on the lips of Jesus in response
>to Mary’s observation that the wine had run out. I
>would take the meaning to be something like “What is
>that to us?”.
>I am having considerably more difficulty in settling
>on a meaning for the phrase in Mark. There it is not
>a response but the opening gambit by the man with the
>unclean spirit. I suppose that phrase has a meaning
>that would fit both contexts but I am at a lost to
>find it. Any suggestions?
I think this is more commonly understood as the opening response of the
"unclean spirit" to Jesus. We would understand an implicit ESTI(N) and
understand the datives as possessive datives: "What is there to me and to
you?" = "What business have you and I in common?" That is to say: the realm
of Jesus and the realm of the demons are utterly alien to each other.
Carl W. Conrad
Department of Classics/Washington University
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