[b-greek] RE: Eph 4:9 TO ANEBH

From: Dale M. Wheeler (dalemw@teleport.com)
Date: Wed Oct 03 2001 - 00:26:18 EDT


Clayton Stirling Bartholomew wrote:

>TO ANEBH was giving me pause, so I read E. Best (Eph ICC) and also
>BDF(267.1). And still being somewhat in a muddle I took a look at John
>Eadie, HAW Meyer, Obrien (Pillar) none of which helped much. So I went back
>and looked at E. Best who is the best (with some reservations about his
>introduction) and now this is what I have made out of all this "research"
>In TO ANEBH, TO makes the quotation (fragment) ANEBH perform as a
>substantive, and then the question TI ESTIN is asked relative to this
>Is this essentially correct?


You seem hesitant to accept Carl's explanation; the same substantiving of a
phrase occurs at Mark 9:23; Gal 5:14. The Eph passage essentially means,
"Now this statement, "He ascended...", what does it mean, except this..."

I think it may be time for you to "bite the bullet" and get a copy of

If I might make an observation about commentaries...they are notoriously
bad when it comes to really handling grammar; some of its because of
editorial decisions to keep things brief, but in many cases its because the
commentators' Greek grammar is not all that good to begin with. A real
exception on Ephesians, if you can get your hands on a copy (its from the
1880's) is Charles Ellicott (his pauline commentaries, not his whole Bible
commentary) on Eph. Its an acquired taste, ie., it takes some work to
understand him at times, but the effort is always worth it...he really knew
Greek grammar and was an actual Greek reader. Barth is probably second
when comes to dealing with the problems in the text in Eph. Have fun!!


Dale M. Wheeler, Ph.D.
Research Prof., Biblical Languages Multnomah Bible College
8435 NE Glisan St. Portland, OR 97220
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