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Re: [nafex] free water



	Victoria, my heart goes out to you!   thanks for the pond book tip.   I 
called the local F, & W. service , they gave me 2 phone #s....Bob Scheirer 
603-225-1411  is the representative in your area for the "partners in fish 
and wildlife" program.    The regional office in Mass.  is 413-253-8300.    
Good Luck!      this particular program does not generally dig ponds, they 
only dam or ditch plug.  However i got the inside story that  the fish and 
wildlife servicwe in general has ample funds,  some other program?   I have 
a list of programs somewhere , ill look for it,             Minnesota del


>From: "victoria l. caron" <vicaron@gis.net>
>Reply-To: nafex@egroups.com
>To: nafex@egroups.com
>Subject: Re: [nafex] free water
>Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 11:30:42 +0000
>
>Hi Del,
>I don't remember where you are. An excellent book on farm reclamation which 
>has a lot of
>input on fish ponds is Louis Bromfield's, Malabar Farm. If I had had my 
>copy returned to
>me years ago, I would lend it to you. You can try the local library. Also, 
>you can check
>with your local extension office about the fish farming and other pond 
>life. Up here in
>Zone 3 NH, we can use horned pout, perch, bass, sunfish or trout species 
>depending on the
>depth and movement of the water.
>Thanks for the info on the "Partners in Wildlife" program. We are losing 
>60% of a half
>acre man made pond (the deep end of course) on our farm to the state 
>highway which is
>being widened. They refuse to completely fill it in or replace it elsewhere 
>on the farm,
>which has two excellent potential pond sites, one which is an overflowing 
>spring. We have
>no potential blowout problem since we are in river bottom land. The 
>estimates (3) we
>received for the cost of building a half acre pond to take the place of the 
>one being
>destroyed average $15,000. If this program is like you say, it could be the 
>answer to our
>prayers. Maybe someone out there will have the answer to our prayers on how 
>to affordably
>replace the over 500 maple, birch, apple, black cherry and other trees, a 
>thirty year old
>growth, (apples are older). Some of these are being removed to widen the 
>road, but most
>are being removed to provide the contractor with parking space for vehicles 
>and
>equipment. We would be happy to use the smallest nursery trees available 
>and are not
>trying to replace them all. Even so, the price is prohibitive, and NO, the 
>state doesn't
>get involved in that part of it. They just make a ridiculous offer of 
>acquisition based
>on the difference of what an appraiser thinks the over all value of the 
>property is
>before and after. If you don't like it, which we don't , they take it by 
>eminent domain,
>which they did! We are grateful for any ideas on ponds, plantings, (I have 
>96+- seedling
>apple that can at least border the highway) or 
>programs..................vic
>
>del stubbs wrote:
>
> >         after getting the go around with the soils and conservation 
>district and
> > the DNR for 2 years trying to work out their cost-sharing etc. programs 
>for
> > creating ponds, as well as their wetland restrictions, we came onto a 
>real
> > beauty.  Its called the "partners in wildlife" program, by the U.S. Fish 
>and
> > Wildlife service.  In complete contrast to the others it is quite well
> > funded.   The local fellow has put in over 500 ponds in one county, free 
>to
> > the landowner, restricted only  to not removing it for 10 years.    On 
>one
> > end I hired a trackhoe operator to dig 6 feet down, to give a 9+ deep 
>hole
> > for droughts, swimming etc.
> >   Hows this on topic for nafex?  Its abundant water near my orchard and
> > garden areas i can tap into, for irrigating.   All together we have 10 
>acres
> > of wildlife ponds, where was only seeps and seasonal marshes before., my
> > only imagined concerns are filtering out dirt and algea,  and having
> > sufficient pressure for drips.
> >         This part applies to the Canadiens-  when recently teaching in 
>Saskatchewan
> > (north of Saskatoon)  i noticed these short windmills an ponds, and 
>learned
> > they are for aereation.  Anyone know of an address or web site for such.
> > as well as site for info on COLD climate fish farming?   I intend to gas
> > pump  the water uphill to a storage tank and use gravity feed for a drip
> > system
> > 
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