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Re: [nafex] Plant shipping costs

I have had the US Postal service lose a package, and I've frequently had
my letters left next door.  (If I notice that I got all of one
neighbor's mail, I go over to the other neighbor to collect my own.)  I
have received parcels for people who long since left my house (including
prescription drug samples for the doctors who used to live here.)  They
do leave my packages in a protected spot in the shade.

I wouldn't recommend using USPS without checking with the customer.  It
varies a lot by location.


PermacultureNo1@aol.com wrote:
> John:
>     Why don't you just use the good old US Mail.  I've never had the US mail
> "lose" a package, deliver it to a vacant house, leave it outdoors exposed to
> weather  in hurricane season, deliver it to neighbors who may or may not
> decide to keep it for themselves, deliver it to places I've long since ceased
> to live at, etc., etc., etc.  We have pretty good drivers where we are now,
> though no responsible parent would let his/her children outdoors at 5 p.m. or
> so when they come bombing through the area.  Mostly they deliver to the right
> people, though things do get left outdoors from time to time and it is hit or
> miss whether they bother to get the "required"signature.  FedEx is worse
> because they don't want to come out to rural addresses--they only want the
> cream of closely packed urban deliveries.  They will claim that the road was
> impassible on days when three or four vehicles use it, including UPS.  From
> the customer's point of view, I would like my mail delivered to my post
> office box where I can pick it up when I am around and it will be under cover
> otherwise, and air conditioned in warm weather, a very important
> consideration if one is expecting live plant material.  (Fortunately, the
> road is to the east of our buildings, so generally materials are in the shade
> if delivered by UPS--they come in the afternoon and they happen to come when
> we are not away for a few days.
> We have been shipping permaculture books and publicatons via US mail since
> 1982, and shipping them all over the world.  We have never had a case where
> the person didn't get the mail, though in some cases it had been slow.
> (Mostly foreign, via surface, which would not be use for live plants,
> obviously.)  When we lived in Canada, we got a mail box in Niagra Falls
> because it was quicker to drive to the USA once a week than to wait for the
> Canadian mail, which is slower than many "Third World" countries I've
> visited.  But the US Mail is OK--way better than any alternatives in my view.
> Dan Hemenway
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