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RE: [nafex] honeylocust pods



>===== Original Message From nafex@egroups.com =====
> Feels kind of weird to disagree with Arnoldia, but I planted
>seeds of thornless honeylocust which we think was the thornless Schofer
>variety from a guy in Michigan.  They came up about 75% thornless (out of
>maybe 25 trees).  Notice the same thing with seedlings of Milwood and
>Calhoun.  Thorny honeylocust are probably 500 ft. from the orchard of
>honeylocusts so we are presuming that most of these are pollinating one
>another.   Hector Black

I didn't have any percentages from personal experience, but I suspect that 
you'd have some 'thorny' seedlings, even if both parents were thornless, 
though the native thorny types may be contributing to a larger percentage of 
them.
I'll differ on the point of thorniness being a juvenile trait for Gleditsia - 
I know plenty of 40-50 yr old trees, and they get thornier every year - and 
the thorns get bigger and more vicious.
In the case of Gleditsia, I'm certain that there's a genetic determinant for 
thorniness; I don't know if it's one or more genes, or which is dominant, 
thorny or thornless.

Lucky Pittman
KY zone 6