[compost_tea] Re: LCE

From: Tim Wilson <thegoodjob_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2011 00:44:16 -0000

Hi Mike,

As mentioned previously my term for feedstock includes things like molasses=
, fish H., alfalfa, rock p. etc. so no.

My design is just a guick and dirty method of extracting and oxygenating th=
e microbes into liquid separated from solids. I'll leave the composting tec=
hniques to others like the Luebkes.

Tim

--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "mikethewormguy" <mikethewormguy_at_...> w=
rote:
>
> Tim,
>
> Are you including how to make effective LCE feedstock in your design ?
>
> Mike Flynn
> Green Quest LLC
> BioSpecific LLC
>
> --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Steyn" <ssteyn_at_> wrote:
> >
> > Tim;
> >
> > Are you still a Canute, or have you moved to below the 49th?
> >
> > Dairy muck is best worked into the soil, as the N will largely be lost
> > through volatisation within three days of it being spread (Zimmer). Bes=
t to
> > disk it into the surface layer. Look forward to your design for LCE.
> >
> > SS
> >
> >
> >
> > From: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com [mailto:compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com] =
On
> > Behalf Of Tim Wilson
> > Sent: 03 March 2011 19:18
> > To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [compost_tea] Re: LCE
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Stephen,
> >
> > I do have LCE in mind and have an affordable design on paper. It is a g=
ood
> > alternative for a grower with large volumes of compost. In my new
> > neighborhood, which is predominantly dairy/hay/alfalfa operations the
> > farmers pile up the stable cleanings where generally the pile just sits=
 for
> > a time without turning. This is then mixed with water into large tanks =
and
> > then spread on the fields or else it is delivered by irrigation gun. I =
can
> > attest to the foul odor indicating that this is not composted (aerobica=
lly)
> > but the soil handles it because it is spread on the surface rather than
> > mixed into the soil. The surface microbes rapidly degrade the organic m=
atter
> > into plant available nutrient. The result is bumper crops of organic ha=
y to
> > feed the cows.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.co=
m> ,
> > "Stephen Steyn" <ssteyn_at_> wrote:
> > >
> > > Tim;
> > >
> > > Read your tome. Truly a masterful work. Congratulations.
> > >
> > > Wish you would also give attention to LCE as it is possibly a more us=
eful
> > > process for larger scale applicators like myself.
> > >
> > > Best wishes
> > >
> > > SS
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.c=
om>
> > [mailto:compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.c=
om> ]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Tim Wilson
> > > Sent: 02 March 2011 21:03
> > > To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com=
>
> > > Subject: [compost_tea] Re: Molasses fungal food
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry but it appears my link to the video clip did not work.
> > >
> > > Go to http://www.microbeorganics.com/#Where_is_your_data_
> > >
> > > scoll down to Brew #1 - 18 hours and click on the 10 MB link for high=
est
> > > resolution
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.=
com>
> > <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > > "Tim Wilson" <thegoodjob_at_> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure that Jeff has good reason for stating that black strap mol=
asses
> > > is not a good fungal food but as has been noted by Tad and as is used=
 by
> > > Paul Stamets, I have found to the contrary. I have grown out fungal h=
yphae
> > > many times from spore form in less than 24 hours using black strap
> > molasses
> > > as the only food source.
> > > > The following link shows some spores sprouting in molasses solution=
s;
> > > > http://microbeorganics.com/microbeidentifypart1.pdf
> > > >
> > > > The following video footage shows fungal hyphae which was grown out=
 in
> > ACT
> > > in 18 hours using my brewer design, the microbulator. Although more t=
han
> > > just black strap molasses was included as a feedstock, it made up a
> > majority
> > > component of feed added. In this footage hyphae was NOT grown out in =
the
> > > compost ahead of time.
> > > >
> > > > http//microbeorganics.com/18hrs1vcfree.wmv
> > > >
> > > > As usual, I'm just seeking to state things as I observe them. I do =
not
> > > seek to be contentious, just honest.
> > > >
> > > > Salutations,
> > > > Tim
> > > >
> > > > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > , Tad Hussey <tadhussey_at_> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Molasses is an excellent food source for both bacteria and fungi.=
 I
> > know
> > > Tim
> > > > > uses it when making samples and I do as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > ~Tad
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: Jonathan Bewley <ummyepp_at_>
> > > > > To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups=
.com>
> > <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011 7:07:09 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [compost_tea] Comfrey compost tea recipe
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I must disagree.
> > > > >
> > > > > I took a professional mushroom cultivation seminar with Paul Stam=
ets
> > up
> > > in
> > > > > Olympia, Washington where I grew up.
> > > > >
> > > > > One method of spore propagation is called a "spore slurry mass" w=
here
> > > you take
> > > > > mushrooms, put them into a bucket of clean water, a bit of sea sa=
lt to
> > > prevent
> > > > > bacteria yet not enough to hurt the spores, and also as immediate=
 food
> > > source
> > > > > "molasses".
> > > > >
> > > > > The spores meet in the solution and create actual microscopic yet
> > fully
> > > > > functioning mushrooms. It takes two spores to make a mushroom. Th=
ey
> > meet
> > > in the
> > > > > solution and feed on the molasses, growing before even hitting th=
e
> > > ground.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm sure there is some truth to your statement, I don't claim to =
know
> > > all but I
> > > > > do know these facts above.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Fri, 2/25/11, Jeff Lowenfels <jeff_at_> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: Jeff Lowenfels <jeff_at_>
> > > > > >Subject: Re: [compost_tea] Comfrey compost tea recipe
> > > > > >To: "compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > " <compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > > > > >Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 7:00 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Sugars do not promote fungi, but rather bacteria....
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Please plant a row for the hungry in your garden. Ask me how!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >On Feb 25, 2011, at 5:50 AM, Jonathan Bewley <ummyepp_at_> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>Comfrey Tea is one of those nutty biodynamic creations I believ=
e.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>You only want to add sugars to a compost tea if you are working=
 to
> > > intentionally
> > > > > >>propagate fungus.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>Bacteria specific to your sugars will out compete the bacteria =
of
> > your
> > >
> > > > > compost.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




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