[compost_tea] Re: LCE

From: mikethewormguy <mikethewormguy_at_aol.com>
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 14:15:12 -0000

Tim,

Are you including how to make effective LCE feedstock in your design ?

Mike Flynn
Green Quest LLC
BioSpecific LLC

--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Stephen Steyn" <ssteyn_at_...> wrote:
>
> Tim;
>
> Are you still a Canute, or have you moved to below the 49th?
>
> Dairy muck is best worked into the soil, as the N will largely be lost
> through volatisation within three days of it being spread (Zimmer). Best =
to
> disk it into the surface layer. Look forward to your design for LCE.
>
> SS
>
>
>
> From: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com [mailto:compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Tim Wilson
> Sent: 03 March 2011 19:18
> To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [compost_tea] Re: LCE
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Stephen,
>
> I do have LCE in mind and have an affordable design on paper. It is a goo=
d
> alternative for a grower with large volumes of compost. In my new
> neighborhood, which is predominantly dairy/hay/alfalfa operations the
> farmers pile up the stable cleanings where generally the pile just sits f=
or
> a time without turning. This is then mixed with water into large tanks an=
d
> then spread on the fields or else it is delivered by irrigation gun. I ca=
n
> attest to the foul odor indicating that this is not composted (aerobicall=
y)
> but the soil handles it because it is spread on the surface rather than
> mixed into the soil. The surface microbes rapidly degrade the organic mat=
ter
> into plant available nutrient. The result is bumper crops of organic hay =
to
> feed the cows.
>
> Tim
>
> --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com>=
 ,
> "Stephen Steyn" <ssteyn_at_> wrote:
> >
> > Tim;
> >
> > Read your tome. Truly a masterful work. Congratulations.
> >
> > Wish you would also give attention to LCE as it is possibly a more usef=
ul
> > process for larger scale applicators like myself.
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > SS
> >
> >
> >
> > From: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com=
>
> [mailto:compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com=
> ]
> On
> > Behalf Of Tim Wilson
> > Sent: 02 March 2011 21:03
> > To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com>=
 
> > Subject: [compost_tea] Re: Molasses fungal food
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry but it appears my link to the video clip did not work.
> >
> > Go to http://www.microbeorganics.com/#Where_is_your_data_
> >
> > scoll down to Brew #1 - 18 hours and click on the 10 MB link for highes=
t
> > resolution
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.co=
m>
> <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> > "Tim Wilson" <thegoodjob_at_> wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm sure that Jeff has good reason for stating that black strap molas=
ses
> > is not a good fungal food but as has been noted by Tad and as is used b=
y
> > Paul Stamets, I have found to the contrary. I have grown out fungal hyp=
hae
> > many times from spore form in less than 24 hours using black strap
> molasses
> > as the only food source.
> > > The following link shows some spores sprouting in molasses solutions;
> > > http://microbeorganics.com/microbeidentifypart1.pdf
> > >
> > > The following video footage shows fungal hyphae which was grown out i=
n
> ACT
> > in 18 hours using my brewer design, the microbulator. Although more tha=
n
> > just black strap molasses was included as a feedstock, it made up a
> majority
> > component of feed added. In this footage hyphae was NOT grown out in th=
e
> > compost ahead of time.
> > >
> > > http//microbeorganics.com/18hrs1vcfree.wmv
> > >
> > > As usual, I'm just seeking to state things as I observe them. I do no=
t
> > seek to be contentious, just honest.
> > >
> > > Salutations,
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com>
> > , Tad Hussey <tadhussey_at_> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Molasses is an excellent food source for both bacteria and fungi. I
> know
> > Tim
> > > > uses it when making samples and I do as well.
> > > >
> > > > ~Tad
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: Jonathan Bewley <ummyepp_at_>
> > > > To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.c=
om>
> <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Fri, February 25, 2011 7:07:09 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [compost_tea] Comfrey compost tea recipe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I must disagree.
> > > >
> > > > I took a professional mushroom cultivation seminar with Paul Stamet=
s
> up
> > in
> > > > Olympia, Washington where I grew up.
> > > >
> > > > One method of spore propagation is called a "spore slurry mass" whe=
re
> > you take
> > > > mushrooms, put them into a bucket of clean water, a bit of sea salt=
 to
> > prevent
> > > > bacteria yet not enough to hurt the spores, and also as immediate f=
ood
> > source
> > > > "molasses".
> > > >
> > > > The spores meet in the solution and create actual microscopic yet
> fully
> > > > functioning mushrooms. It takes two spores to make a mushroom. They
> meet
> > in the
> > > > solution and feed on the molasses, growing before even hitting the
> > ground.
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure there is some truth to your statement, I don't claim to kn=
ow
> > all but I
> > > > do know these facts above.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 2/25/11, Jeff Lowenfels <jeff_at_> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Jeff Lowenfels <jeff_at_>
> > > > >Subject: Re: [compost_tea] Comfrey compost tea recipe
> > > > >To: "compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com>
> > " <compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com>
> <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com> >
> > > > >Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 7:00 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Sugars do not promote fungi, but rather bacteria....
> > > > >
> > > > >Please plant a row for the hungry in your garden. Ask me how!
> > > > >
> > > > >On Feb 25, 2011, at 5:50 AM, Jonathan Bewley <ummyepp_at_> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>Comfrey Tea is one of those nutty biodynamic creations I believe.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>You only want to add sugars to a compost tea if you are working t=
o
> > intentionally
> > > > >>propagate fungus.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Bacteria specific to your sugars will out compete the bacteria of
> your
> >
> > > > compost.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>




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