Re: [compost_tea] Re: Best Environmental Technologies?

From: Jeff Lowenfels <jeff_at_gardener.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 08:57:51 -0800

Wow, thanks Tim!!!

Jeff l

Sent from my ipad...Please plant a row for the hungry in your garden. Ask m=
e how!

On Mar 30, 2011, at 8:36 AM, "Tim Wilson" <thegoodjob_at_hotmail.com> wrote:

> And I should add, come to think of it, a great introductory book called T=
eaming With Microbes or something like that.
>
> Tim
>
> --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Tim Wilson" <thegoodjob_at_...> wrote:
> >
> > Absolutely, that is no secret. That is why we have papers written by pe=
ople like Marianne Clarholm, Michael Bonkowski, Bryan Griffiths, Vigdis Tor=
svik and microscopes.
> >
> > Tim
> > Dhp (density hath posterity)
> >
> > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "mikethewormguy" <mikethewormguy_at_> =
wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Tim, I have a sense that there is some folks out there that would say=
 the same of Activated Compost Tea or Liquid Compost Extract liquids.
> > >
> > > Mike Flynn
> > > Green Quest LLC
> > > BioSpecific LLC
> > >
> > > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Tim Wilson" <thegoodjob_at_> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well the testimonials and data on their webpage does not say much. =
Most of these formulations are a joke in my opinion anyway.
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > > >
> > > > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "mikethewormguy" <mikethewormgu=
y_at_> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Are we now determining the quality of a soil amendment (i.e. TM21=
) based on educated guessing ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Do we want others to apply the seeming 'guessing' standard to ACT=
 or LCE ?
> > > > >
> > > > > For the product formulators on this list, my sense is that none o=
f us would want our product judged based upon even 'educated' guessing and =
opinion.
> > > > >
> > > > > As Elaine would say.... " Where's the data " " Show me the data "
> > > > >
> > > > > Pardon if I sound a little sensitive, but being a cook with a lab=
 coat who makes stuff, the is alot of great stuff that can be formulated in=
to a 'thin black liquid".
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike Flynn
> > > > > Green Quest LLC
> > > > > BioSpecific LLC
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Tim Wilson" <thegoodjob_at_> wr=
ote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was going to say; sounds like molasses before anyone mentione=
d this. Why pay for watered down molasses?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tim
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "jwoenne" <jrrwoenne_at_> wrot=
e:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Julie,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for the feedback.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I agree entirely. I also suspect it some kind of mix of molas=
ses/humic acid/fulvic acid/liquid kelp.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I tried it a few years ago without any visible benefit. I sus=
pect it gives visible benefit with soils that have been hammered by poor fa=
rming practices, i.e., compacted soils with struggling microbiology. But if=
 your soils are pretty good to start, then there is little benefit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > James
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "firth_julie" <yilgarn_at_> =
wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi James,
> > > > > > > > I live in Geraldton, Western Australia and went to a tm21 b=
est seminar a year or so ago and I asked Martin Straper (the presenter and =
ex csiro scientist) what was in it and he said " no micro-organisms, just f=
ood to stimulate them." The product is a black thin liquid, my guess is it =
possibly a mix of fulvic acid, molasses, kelp etc...
> > > > > > > > The actual ingredients are their trade secrets I suppose, o=
therwise who would buy it when we can make our own..and they have to pay fo=
r their product, research, marketing etc.. somehow.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Whether it is produces any better results than a liquid bac=
t/and or fungal food mix to your soil is something you would have to trial.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kind regards
> > > > > > > > Julie Firth
> > > > > > > > Drylands Permaculture Research Farm
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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