[compost_tea] Re: Adding non-organic parts to compost for tea?

From: migrainexx <rap.rem_at_comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 17:17:11 -0000

I think she was trying to tell you, most commercial plants are treated with=
 non systemic sprays...

--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, EAReinheimer <erica_r_at_...> wrote:
>
> Yes, I was quite surprised when a pesticide specialist from Oregon Tilth=
 
> (Organic Certifiers) came to speak to us at Portland (OR) Tilth in 1992.
> She said that most commercial pesticides are not taken up by the plants,=
 
> and in fact are only on the surface of the fruit or vegetable.
>
> So, I used to use vinegar, then later a special soap from Trader Joes to=
 
> wash commercial produce. When the radiated food arrived, I switched to
> Organic entirely (except at restaurants).
>
> The most notable exception is some of the pesticidess often sprayed
> around house foundations to deter termites, carpenter ants, etc. Very
> persistant and absorbed throughout the plant. Bad idea to grow food
> next to the house.
>
> Since then the, cyprosyliads and aminosyliads (didn't look up the
> spelling) are also notable exceptions, with persistence more than a few
> years.
>
> Erica
>
>
>
> On 6/22/2011 9:01 PM, Stephen Steyn wrote:
> >
> > John:
> >
> > I would imagine that any pesticide would impregnate the whole fruit.
> > Maybe you're right, maybe it only stays on the skin in which case you
> > wouldn't eat it except in cases where one ate the skin -- such as
> > eating an apple without peeling it, or a grape.
> >
> > I think most people are worried about anthelmintic (livestock worm
> > remedies) getting into the compost and taking out part of the web. One=
 
> > would think that anthelmintic are designed to persist as many are
> > supposed to have extended efficacy (say 7 weeks). So people tend to
> > avoid manures except from organic farms.
> >
> > SS
> >
> > *From:*compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *skyjs
> > *Sent:* 23 June 2011 00:45
> > *To:* compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> > *Subject:* [compost_tea] Re: Adding non-organic parts to compost for te=
a?
> >
> > Hi Stephen,
> > My thinking was that the pesticides, etc, stayed in the skin and that
> > is why we didn't eat it, but I was worried that the skin, which we did=
 
> > not eat, was going into the compost, and might do harm there.
> >
> > There are a lot of people with PhD's and advanced knowledge about
> > microbiology on this list, which I don't have, and that is why I'm aski=
ng.
> > John S
> > PDX, OR
> >
> > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com>, "Stephen Steyn" <ssteyn_at_
> > <mailto:ssteyn_at_>> wrote:
> > >
> > > John;
> > >
> > > If you're an organic guy, why are you not eating an organic mango?
> > Why do
> > > you worry so much about your compost and so little about your son?
> > Does this
> > > not seem irrational to you too?
> > >
> > > My personal policy is to try and ingest as few chemicals as reasonabl=
e
> > > within the modern agricultural setup. I hope producers are aware of
> > > withholding periods on chemicals and that the stores I buy from have
> > > reasonable policies in this regard. As a producer, I use chemicals
> > as wisely
> > > as I know how, and try and limit their inclusion in my products. I do=
n't
> > > worry so much about air miles and carbon credits in the products I
> > buy. I am
> > > aware though that some people worry about this, about plastics and th=
eir
> > > effects in the food cycle, about soaps and detergents we use etc.
> > >
> > > SS
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
> > <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com>] On
> > > Behalf Of skyjs
> > > Sent: 21 June 2011 07:34
> > > To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com <mailto:compost_tea%40yahoogroups.com=
>
> > > Subject: [compost_tea] Adding non-organic parts to compost for tea?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My son today asked me, "Dad, if we don't eat the peel of the mango
> > because
> > > it was grown in Mexico and probably has pesticides in it, should we
> > really
> > > put it in the compost?"
> > >
> > > I am now having second thoughts myself. Does anyone have a
> > reasonable way of
> > > thinking about this?
> > > Thansk
> > > John S
> > > PDX OR
> > >
> >
> >
>




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