Re: [compost_tea] Re: Full moon & foliar spraying
Evan,
Without doing any research (this is off the top of my head from high school=
physics), my understanding is that because the Earth has greater mass than=
the moon it exerts a larger gravitational pull, keeping our feet firmly on=
the planet. The moon has some influence on our tides due to it's wea=
ker gravitational pull, but closer proximity to Earth than the Sun. T=
herefore, depending on where the Moon is located, relative to the Earth's r=
otation allows scientists to calculate the tides. I'm not sure I unde=
rstand your reference in regards to gravity in this post.
I'm not sure I understand your logic on plants either. Plants grow up=
as
they reach towards light or the sun. It's not gravity pulling it up,=
but rather the plant's ability to grow in a manner that exceeds the
force of gravity that the mass of the Earth places on the plant. Almo=
st all living organisms grow in a similar fashion. I don't see how th=
is is a mystery or unexplained by science, or how this relates to aerated c=
ompost tea.
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From: evanfolds <evan_at_progressearth.com>
To: compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 7:59 AM
Subject: [compost_tea] Re: Full moon & foliar spraying
I sent this weeks ago, strange.
Newtonian phsyics is only a stepping stone of our attempts to understand ou=
r surroundings, a thoughtform to make our existence easier to understand. P=
eople do this. We do it with compsot tea. Newtonian physics breaks down tow=
ards the speed of light, which is where Einstein comes in. But, again, the =
more we look into it, the less we know.
What I mean, Tim, is that whatever gravitational pull there is from the moo=
n would have no effect on Earth activities, as it would be non-existent rel=
ative to the force occuring from the Earth. Otherwise, why would a rock not=
fall up when you drop it? In other words, the moon cannot pull a plant up,=
or a tide. It is another force alltogether, one that we do not collectivel=
y recognize, which is the focus of much of our work. The plant, and all liv=
ing systems, are affected by levity, or the force that works opposite of gr=
avity. There are always opposing forces in Nature. The workings of Nature a=
re towards balance, the more we can get into resonance with this in our gar=
dening and compost tea brewing, the better resutls we will have..
evan
www.VortexBrewer.com/microbe
--- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Tim Wilson" <thegoodjob_at_...> wrote:
>
> These are interesting thoughts Evan and of course there are many unexplai=
ned events and phenomena on this earth and universe. One small point; I bel=
ieve that, when the gravitational influence of the moon upon the earth is d=
iscussed and taught, it is the moon's gravitaional pull which is meant and =
not a multiplied gravitaional force down, so indeed if plants are so affect=
ed, it would be in an upwards or angling upwards direction. I believe this =
is a component of Newtonian physics, that there is a gravitational attracti=
on or pull between two bodies. [The greater the mass of the bodies, the gre=
ater the force?]
>
> Salutations,
> Tim
>
> --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "evanfolds" <evan_at_> wrote:
> >
> > Interesting thread. The concept of "sow by the moon" is a remnant of an=
cient planting calendars when people recognized the influence of celestial =
cycles and the subtle energies they put into play. We lost most of this whe=
n the Catholic church yoked us to the Gregorian calendar so we would follow=
the sun through the sky.
> >
> > As an aside, it is interesting to note all the upheaval and transition =
in the world with natural disaster and the Occupy events cropping up consid=
ering the end of the ancient calendar is projected to occur on October 28th=
of this year. Not proof, but certainly serendipity. Most have become fixat=
ed with December 21st, 2012 with the end of the calendar, but this has more=
to do with Hollywood and a surface view of the articulation of the ancient=
calendar than anything. Look into the work of Carl Calleman and read his b=
ook Solving the Greatest Mystery of Our Time: The Mayan Calendar. I think y=
ou will be interested in what you find. We live in intersting times indeed.=
> >
> > There are forces at work that we cannot experience with our senses, but=
that influence us none the less. Things we don't have to pay attention to =
in order to grow plants, but when we do open doors we have never walked thr=
ough. This is seen in the concepts of living water, frequency farming, home=
opathy, etc. It is also seen in wireless technology or the infrared frequen=
cies pests use to find food in unhealthy plants. The materialistic view of =
why the waxing moon affects plant growth is that it is the extra suns rays =
bouncing off the moon or that gravity is pulling the plant up quicker. I re=
member being taught this in school in regards to the tides.
> >
> > However, if it was the extra gravity from the moon, plants would actual=
ly be growing down. And, while I have no "proof" the argument that the moo=
n reflects more sun to help plants grow seems a bit far fetched to me. My m=
ind goes to trying to grow a plant with a cheap fluorsecnet lamp indoors. W=
ithout enough light plants get leggy and fall all over themselves, it does =
not result int he vigor associated with sowing by the moon.
> >
> > Think about it, why does a plant grow up against the forces of gravity?=
This is agaisn the 2nd "Law" of Thermodynamics, or entropy. Further eviden=
ce that what we tell ourselves is true is really only half the story in reg=
ards to natural systems. As Viktor Schauberger observed, we create fables a=
bout how Newton pondered gravity by getting hit in the head by an apple, bu=
t spend no time telling ourselves how the apple got up there in the first p=
lace.
> >
> > Plants retain an etheric body that provides a different setting than ph=
ysical inanimate matter. Same with all living organisms. Animals and humans=
retain an astral body that relegates emotion and instinct, and humans are =
unique in possesing an ego, evidence in our ability of self-reflection.
> >
> > Plants have only the physical and etheric body. For this reason they ar=
e still completely immersed in the influence of the cosmic realm. Animals a=
re less so, and humans are almost completly disconnected from this influenc=
e, which is why most will not allow themselves to even entertain the idea t=
hat subtle energies hold sway to begin with. We have adopted an entirely ma=
terialistic view of life, and it cripples us.
> >
> > It is the levity that compliments gravity that creates these phenomenon=
. Nature is not a one way street, but dualistic. We find ourselves in the m=
iddle to create a trinity. Nature strives towards balance and humans tip th=
e scale if we are unconscious of our influence. Levity is how fish climb wa=
terfalls, or why plant sap rises higher on a full moon. We can all attest t=
o the strange energies and activity associated by the full moon in people. =
If the moon has such an effect on people and plants, why not the other cele=
stial bodies?
> >
> > This is really all BioDynamics is tapping into. The preperations BD500-=
508 were articulated by Steiner to influece the higher energy bodies, not m=
aterialsitic fertilizers. This is why they have such a profound effect used=
in such small amounts, especially when potetnized by a vortex in water. Th=
e living water can then carry the frequency message to the field or garden.=
This is water's major role in natural systems and why rivers meander, rain=
drops spiral, or waves curl,etc. Read The Agriculture Course, Steiner prov=
ides a much more compelling argument than I can here. There are several pla=
nting calendars that can be used for these purposes. See www.StellaNatura.c=
om or the work of Maria Thune.
> >
> > It would be interesting to perform brewing experiments timed to celesti=
al events. We are actually preparing some studies to begin investigating th=
is in order to incoroprate into brewing and feeding schedules. There's no t=
elling what we'll find unless we open our minds and look for it.
> >
> > Evan
> > www.VortexBrewer.com/microbe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "Richard" <tzaddi_at_> wrote:
> > >
> > > From my own personal experience and research I know that harvesting o=
n the new moon is desirable for plants which will eventually be dried and o=
r cured. As reflected in Ian's reference, the water content of a plant is =
at it's lowest during a New Moon and highest during a Full Moon.
> > >
> > > The indication is that leading up too a Full Moon a plant is taking u=
p and retaining water and inversely giving up water from the waning moon un=
til the start of waxing right after a New moon.
> > >
> > > Richard
> > >
> > > --- In compost_tea_at_yahoogroups.com, "RTS Friction - Carruthers" <home=
_at_> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Came across a very informative web article by Nutri-Tech Solutions,=
no longer have the URL address but if you google :
> > > >
> > > > Mulder's Chart Hydroponics Nutri-Key and Triacontrol it should le=
ad you to the article. Below is a snippet from it, there is loads more inte=
resting info
> > > >
> > > > that our group members will find rewarding.
> > > >
> > > > Rgds
> > > >
> > > > Ian C
> > > >
> > > > "Any of the six days leading up to a full moon are prime times for =
foliar fertilising, while results will poor during any of the 6 days leadin=
g up to a new moon. This is not some sort of cosmic hippy theory the moon g=
overns the movement of water (think of tides). The plant is 94% water. Furt=
her, a full moon supplies the plant with an extra period of light. When a f=
ull moon is reflecting the suns rays back earth, the photosynthetic process=
es of plants will continue to operate. Fluid movement in the plant more vig=
orous under full moon influence and foliar nutrients are more efficiently t=
ranslocated. Compare the sap flow by pruning on a full moon compared to a n=
ew moon."
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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