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Re: The Limits To Growth
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Subject: Re: The Limits To Growth
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From: mfriesel@ix.netcom.com
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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 22:00:43 -0700
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Article: 16711 of alt.sustainable.agriculture
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charliew wrote:
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.....
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> I say we should make it illegal to prosecute a black
> perpetrator. Turn them all loose, because they are victims
> of their society.
>
> Naturally, I will make every attempt to reside as far from
> these victims as possible. Thus, they will have to
> victimize other victims to gain the valuables needed to
> support their drug habits, pay for prostitutes, etc. How
> this can be considered justice is difficult for me to
> understand.
>
> Thus, you can hopefully see what I love so much about you
> flaming liberals.
I note:
Here I thought the so-called conservatives were responsible. I doubt
that your flaming liberals screwed up the Simpson trial. Fahrakkan's
(sp?) demonstration planned to take place shortly after the trial and
certain to draw more and angrier demonstrators if Simpson were found
guilty certainly gave some presumably very conservative politicians and
administrators sleepless nights. Is Fahrakkan liberal or conservative?
Anyone care to make an assessment?
Here are some more questions for both sides of this discussion:
I've heard a lot of self-appointed conservatives blaming the nation's
ills on liberals over the past decade or so, and I've heard some of the
people who have been labelled 'liberal' spouting some pretty
conservative thought. I've really hardly heard or read anything
representing liberal thought anywhere - some in the Nation. What if
'conservatives' have been throwing bricks at conservatives and calling
them liberals, when actually liberals no longer exist? Would this be
class warfare, tribal warfare, or what?
According to the paper, the 18th street gang is now bigger than the
crips or the bloods. Are they conservative or liberal?
Is this group a class or a tribe?
Are major drug importers liberal or conservative?
charliew continues:
> Your compassion leads you to do stupid
> things, because justice must often be devoid of compassion
> if it is to work. Think about it.
I reply:
I agree with you 100%. I have some specific things to do and I am
working myself up to be absolutely devoid of compassion so that I can
carry these things out properly. I think, in fact, that this is the
solution to a major social problem: we can't leave lawbreakers on the
street, and at the same time I don't want to pay for their incarceration
- which in many cases is nothing but welfare (welfare for the prison
owners as well if they get to gouge the government like the hmo's). What
is your suggestion? I've got a solution which neither conservatives nor
liberals will like, is absolutely devoid of compassion, about which I'll
tell you later.
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