INTERNET RESOURCES FOR UK VEGETARIANS (VERSION 3)
Or, Veg*ns on the computer !!!
BY BRIAN, 25/11/93, spilling into December and then into 1994.
You can contact me if you wish at BRIAN6@MDX.AC.UK or BRIAN6@UK.AC.MDX.CLUSTER
(depending on your mailer.) This file can be redistributed/copied at will, and
you can modify it according to taste too as long as you include a note to that
effect. This file was last updated on 12/04/94.
This deals with resources available to anyone with access to computing
facilities. This includes anyone working or studying at university, anyone
working for certain companies that have their own connections, and anyone with
a computer terminal and a modem at home who has internet access that they're
paying for from certain companies who provide that service to the general
public. Appendix one contains a list of such companies and related information.
There is a computer network in the UK called JANET (Joint Academic NETwork)
which lots of educational establishments are connected to. This is in turn
connected to a loose collection of networks called the internet, which extends
all round the world. If your site is only on JANET but does not have a direct
internet connection then all is not lost, it just makes things a bit more
complicated as everything has to be done via relays, gateways, staging posts,
and other public services. The locations listed below are listed in their
standard internet format where possible. This is not necessarily the format of
their address that you will have to type in to get it to work, as much depends
on just exactly how your site has been set up. By way of some examples : -
To send mail to my address (above) you might have to actually type it in as
janet"email@example.com" or to get to firstname.lastname@example.org you might
have to address it to cbs%uk.ac.nsfnet-relay::edu.bar.foo::f.bloggs .
Further information on this can be got by sending a mail message to
uk.ac.janet.news containing just the following line : - Request M17
Basically there are three categories of relevant resources on the internet.
They are as follows : -
1) Mailing lists
2) USENET newsgroups
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The mailing lists are the most interesting, in my humble opinion. The "focus"
of each of the lists varies, so I've listed all the lists I can think of of
interest to vegetarians, vegans, animal rights enthusiasts, and those of a like
mind. Any additions/corrections to this list would be gratefully received.
(The next paragraph has been pasted in from the blurb from Granola, the former
name for veglife, but it also applies equally to vegan-l, veggie, etc.)
VEGLIFE, a LISTSERV list. A LISTSERV list is an automated electronic mailing
list. Anyone with Internet e-mail access can sign up and messages will be
e-mailed to that address for retrieval on their computer. VEGLIFE encourages
discussion by members on vegetarianism in a supportive atmosphere. Members
provide personal and scientific information on a wide array of
vegetarian-related topics -- including nutrition, recipes, restaurant and
travel information, making vegan products, and fitting vegetarianism into
individual lifestyles. Typically, a subscriber posts a query and other
subscribers from around the world respond. Reprints of articles published in
various national media periodically appear, including articles published by
The Vegetarian Resource Group.
The idea with these lists is that you send a mail message containing the
instructions to subscribe you (they are all free) and then you receive a copy
of everything sent to the group and become able to send stuff yourself.
This usually consists of questions, opinions, news and information about
anything from nutrition to vivisection. Also some recipes get sent in.
You can either have each message arrive in your mailbox individually, or set
the digest option, and have one big message arrive once a day.
In general, each list has two addresses : - one for sending in instructions to
join, leave, go onto digest etc, and one for sending in stuff to be
distributed to the group. Generally, a computer handles everything, and to join
you send a mail message to the relevant address containing just the line
subscribe listname yourfirstname yoursurname ,eg
subscribe veglife John Smith (unless I've stated otherwise.)
The listserver should then mail you back with all you need to know, including
the address you send your posts to the whole list to.
Alternatively, just mail it the word help for a list of useful commands.
The following is a selection of those lists most likely to be of interest : -
Vegetarianism and related issues. Formerly known as Granola. This replaces
(10/12/93) any previous addresses for Veglife or Granola.
Similar to veglife. This is the new address, and (10/12/93) supersedes the
previous address which was at gibbs.
A list just for the UK. Currently averages about one news item a month !
It certainly wouldn't do any harm to breathe some life into it (HINT HINT.)
LISTSERV@VM.TEMPLE.EDU OR LISTSERV@TEMPLEVM.BITNET
OR CBS%UK.AC.RUTHERFORD.IBM-B::EARN.TEMPLEVM::LISTSERV (whatever works !)
A list just for discussing vegan food and vegan-related issues. This is an
ethical vegan list for vegans and vegan wannabes ONLY.
Send mail with the command : subscribe macrobiotic
Or if you are mailing from a place with strange headers or you want to read the
list mail at a different address from where you send the subscription request,
send the message : subscribe macrobiotic other_email_address
For discussion of macrobiotics etc.
Recipes and discussions of low-fat vegetarianism, for health reasons only (no
discussions about ethics, environment, etc.)
(No need to put your full name in the subscribe command.)
A place where vegetarian cooks can exchange ideas and techniques. Right now,
the mailing list is sent copies of all rec.food.veg.cooking, but other
submissions are welcomed as well. For further information about the list, send
mail to email@example.com .
LISTSERV@ETSUADMN.BITNET OR LISTSERV@ETSUADMN.ETSU.EDU
General discussions about fitness, health, well-being etc.
AR-News-Request@cygnus.Com (David Taylor & Chip Roberson)
Animal rights news.
AR-Talk-Request@cygnus.COM (David Taylor & Chip Roberson)
Animal rights discussions.
LISTSERV@VTVM1.BITNET or LISTSERV@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
For exchange and discussions of foodlore, food information, and recipes etc.
(Messages in English please as it's a human not a computer that actions them.)
"Sustainable use of ecosystem resources working group of the wildlife society."
(I think that means it's an American based environmental group.)
ECOL-ECON (ECOLOGICAL ECONOMICS)
It's a long story what this list is all about, but basically it's a variety of
things to do with ecology/green issues as affected by economic factors.
MaxLife is a list for those working toward a positive, healthy lifestyle while
at the same time choosing to avoid heavy consumerism. It is for people who
choose their activities with careful consideration to the pleasure they bring
as well as all their costs.
This list is for users that want to volunteer their time to, firstly, help
VEGLIFE keep up-to-date with journals, information files, recipes, and other
list of similar purpose; and secondly, possibly work with your local Veg groups
or start one of your own. Chuck Goelzer Lyons is the Chairman of this
particular resource and could give you more information about how you could
help if you are interested. You can reach him at, firstname.lastname@example.org.
Plus any others you may stumble across and also various others on subjects such
as gardening, the environment, or various ethical issues.
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Secondly, there are the USENET newsgroups. The following ones may be of
interest to you : -
(My personal favourite groups are rec.humor and alt.fan.lightbulbs .)
USENET is quite hard to describe. Well here is one attempt. It is a system of
exchanging public messages between computers. Messages (aka articles) are sent
to all usenet sites, where they are collectively called 'news'. The news is
divided into interest areas, called newsgroups. It is estimated that millions
of people throughout the world read usenet, but only read those of the 7000 or
so newsgroups which are of interest. Not all groups are available at all sites.
It's like reading a noticeboard read throughout the world, and you can send
(post) articles and take copies of existing ones too, if you know how.
The difference between usenet and mailing lists is that with most usenet
groups, nothing lands in your mailbox ; you have to actively go and find it.
The information on how to read and post to USENET groups is stored as appendix
three to this file.
The rec.food.veg USENET newsgroup remains a busy place. Even if you don't have
access to the USENET newsgroups, you can obtain some interesting information
compiled by its participants. The rec.food.veg FAQ is a list of Frequently
Asked Questions and their answers concerning vegetarianism.
The World Guide To Vegetarianism is a listing of vegetarian restaurants,
vegetarian-friendly restaurants, natural food stores, vegetarian organizations,
etc. (It is edited mostly by vegans.) It is broken down into files for
geographical areas. These files are available by mail server. To obtain any or
all of these files, send an e-mail to email@example.com
Include any of the following lines (and _only_ those lines) in the message:
These files are also available by anonymous FTP from rtfm.mit.edu in the
The World Guide To Vegetarianism is now on WWW too ! (WWW is explained further
down in this file, in section 3 (Miscellaneous resources.)) There is now a HTML
version of the guide on the Internet. Contentwise it is identical to the text
version available on USENET and via anonymous FTP, but the HTML version is a
bit prettier, and with it, it is much easier to look listings up... just follow
the menus. The HTML version of the guide can be found on Gedge's Vegetarian
Pages which are located at: http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Vegetarian
For those with a UNIX/Internet account who have never used WWW before, you can
try to access the Vegetarian Pages with one of the following commands: Mosaic,
lynx, or www, followed on the same line by the above path <return>.
Mosaic is graphics-based, lynx is text based, and www is ancient.
P.S.: You can access the guide directly at:
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(Part 3 - Miscellaneous resources.)
The following are potentially of use or interest to you : -
Archived discussions from the newsgroups and mailing lists
Environmental gopher servers
Internet Relay Chat
The "USENET Cookbook" which is a collection of hunderds of recipes, stored in
separate directories according to recipe type (eg meat, vegan, ovolacto etc.)
There is all manner of stored information available. From FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions) files of newsgroups to recipes.
I'm not too hot on retrieving stored information, but let's have a go at that
The main way for transferring files is by FTP file transfer. Those of you who
have proper internet access may be able to transfer the files directly to your
own site ; the rest of us MAY have to use a guest ftp site provided for us poor
souls who're only on Janet. But you can always try the nslookup and ftp
commands though, just to see if they work for you regardless.
Appendix Two contains details of how to do FTP file transfers.
Having transferred the file over to your directory on your host computer (that
means the one you're using) you may need some special software if you are then
to be able to copy it onto a floppy disk or send it to a printer for printing.
Ask your system manager what's available. If all else fails, you could always
get the interesting parts onto your screen and use whatever screen dumping
facility you have.
A good place to start off is the anonymous FTP site mthvax.cs.miami.edu .
(Assuming it hasn't temporarily reverted back to being a non-ftp site, as it
did recently) the files of interest are in the /pub/recipes/vegan directory.
The closest thing Internet has to an "official" site for vegetarian information
is flubber.cs.umd.edu under /other/tms/veg. An FTP site which provides
vegetarian recipes is bitnic.educom.edu. The recipes are in the nicbbs.391
subdirectory, have a filename VEG_RECI and a filetype of either DIGEST,
INDEX or VOLxxxxx.
Recipes, logs of discussions, bulletins, and information files of interest
to vegetarians are available by FTP'ing to 184.108.40.206
(CADADMIN.CADLAB.VT.EDU) with the userid <vegan> and the
password <guest>. (Instead of anonymous and an email address.)
There are several files and directories that may be of interest to you there.
They include stuff from mailing lists (eg monthly bulletins, archived
discussions, and FAQ's (frequently asked questions files,)) recipes, and
nutritional and other useful relevant information.
FatFree, the electronic mailing list for discussion of
very low fat vegetarian eating, maintains a recipe archive.
There are over 600 very low fat vegetarian recipes of varying
complexity and cultural origin included in the archive. They
are available by anonymous FTP from the following sites and
While at the ftp.geod.emr.ca site, also check the subdirectory
/pub/Vegetarian/Recipes/CADAdmin for more recipes. These are
divided further into fatfree, lacto, ovolacto and vegan
subdirectories. The subdirectory /pub/Vegetarian/Articles contains
articles of vegetarian interest.
The site wiretap.spies.com is worth visiting for its /Library/Article/Food
directory. There is a large recipe file (vegan.rcp) and a wealth of other
useful food information, neatly grouped.
Another recipe site which looks like it's got completely different files in it
compared to most of the others is calypso-2.oit.unc.edu . Check out the
pes.and.general-info !!!!! Wow, what a pathname...
Also worth a look is the /usenet/rec.food.recipes/vegan directory at the site
ftp.uu.net (although some of the recipes there look a bit familiar.)
And finally, if you like your recipes in tex format, whatever that is, the site
cs.ubc.ca has some in the directory /ftp/local/RECIPES/VEGETARIAN .
If you need any more FTP sites than this, I suggest you run whatever utilities
may be at your disposal for searching through the net, such as Veronica,
Archie, WAIS etc for whatever word comes to mind (I've had great success
searching for anything mentioning vegan in the title.)
World Wide Web (WWW)
If you have access to WWW, check out the English Server's Recipe Folder.
While it contains non-vegetarian recipes, it has a decidedly vegetarian bias.
Non-vegetarian recipes are found under the heading "Dead Animals". In addition
to recipes, the folder can be used to access many other vegetarian resources
on the Net. If you haven't got a WWW client, try telnetting to a test service
at gopher.msu.edu, log in as web, move the highlight bar down to select
"Other WWW servers" and press right arrow to action, then move the highlight
down to "Web Central at CERN" and action, and repeat for "Subjects" and then
for "The Recipes Folder." Or, telnet to the main site, info.cern.ch, and then
try entering 3 (for places to start exploring), 1 (for list of places sorted by
subject) and then pressing enter till you see what number to enter for the
recipe folder (it was 71 when I looked but don't count on that.)
Finally, if you have a thing called a gopher client, the possibilities for
navigating around the world are endless.
(*** Quick definition of gopher : - It's a very powerful but easy to use
information retrieval tool. If a gopher client is running at a site,
then you can use it to fish for information there within the framework of a
nice pretty menu system. Some gophers include a facility for reading usenet
news. Most of them seem to include a facility for connecting to other gophers.
This is a really neat idea because if you do connect to another site like this,
then the other site's menu structure becomes effectively just a collection of
submenus that look like part of the gopher menu system at the site you first
connected to. ***)
One public login gopher client can be accessed by telnetting to panda.uiowa.edu
(there are lots of other groovy things there too) and I'm not going to tell you
where the others are so they don't all get overloaded and stop me using them !
*** Internet Relay Chat ***
Internet Relay chat is a facility somewhat similar to BT chatlines, except that
it's done on computer and individual "channels" have different topics/areas of
interest. The details for how to access this service to "talk" online to other
veggies around the world is stored as appendix five to this file.
Some sections of this file are based upon a similar publication produced by VRG
(The Vegetarian Resource Group.) Further information about them and other
materials produced by them is stored as appendix six to this file.
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*** APPENDIX ONE ***
Companies providing useful computing facilities to the general public.
It's best to contact these companies yourselves and ask for the brochure. The
ranges of services offered, the methods of access, and the pricing structures
are too complicated to fully explain here as I'm trying to keep this document
as short as possible ! Prices quoted don't include VAT. If you have a thing
called a digital packet system to use instead of making long distance phone
call it may work out cheaper. PPP/SLIP is short for Point to Point Protocol/
Serial Line Internet Protocol - Both ways of connecting to the Internet via a
serial line - needs special software on your PC - available for most computers.
<< Demon >>
name ----------> Demon Internet Systems (DIS)
dialup --------> +44 (0)81 343 4848
area codes ----> +44 (0)81
local access --> London, England
Also have "points of presence" in Edinburgh and Warrington.
services ------> ftp, telnet, etc via PPP/SLIP connection
fees ----------> GBPounds 10.00/month; 132.50/year (plus 12.50 startup
charge). No on-line time charges.
email ---------> firstname.lastname@example.org or email@example.com
voice ---------> +44 (0)81 349 0063
ftp more info -> ftp.demon.co.uk::/pub/doc/Services.txt
<< dircon >>
name ----------> The Direct Connection
dialup --------> +44 (0)81 317 2222
area codes ----> +44 (0)81
local access --> London, England
services ------> shell or menu, UUCP feeds, SLIP/PPP, ftp, telnet, gopher,
WAIS, Archie, personal ftp/file space, email-to-fax
fees ----------> Subscriptions from GBPounds 10 per month, no on-line
charges. GBPounds 7.50 signup fee.
email ---------> firstname.lastname@example.org
voice ---------> +44 (0)81 317 0100
fax -----------> +44 (0)81 317 0100
<< ibmpcug >>
name ----------> UK PC User Group
dialup --------> +44 (0)81 863 6646
area codes ----> +44 (0)81
local access --> London, England
services ------> ftp, telnet, bbs, irc, feeds
fees ----------> From GBPounds 6.75 + 10 startup (no time charges)
email ---------> email@example.com
voice ---------> +44 (0)81 863 6646
!!!Stop Press!!! "Spuddy's Xanadu" offer FREE (yes free) facilities. They can
be contacted at firstname.lastname@example.org or email@example.com
How People Can Get The PDIAL (The complete list of public dialin
sites from around the world)
From the Information Deli archive server (most up-to-date):
To receive the current edition of the PDIAL, send email containing
the phrase "Send PDIAL" to "firstname.lastname@example.org". To be
put on a list of people who receive future editions as they are
published, send email containing the phrase "Subscribe PDIAL" to
"email@example.com". To receive both the most recent and
future editions, send both messages.
From the news.answers FAQ archive:
Send email with the message "send usenet/news.answers/pdial" to
"firstname.lastname@example.org". For help, send the message "help" to
the same address.
A list of companies providing public facilities that covers the whole of Europe
can be obtained by mailing a request to email@example.com (or phone 0763 73039.)
Other companies in the UK who may be able to provide you with various
useful facilities such as internet mail and access to databases about
every imaginable subject are as follows : -
15/16 Lower Park Row PO Box 188
PO Box 676 Oxford
Bristol OX1 5AX
Tel 0272 255111 Tel 0865 730275
PFDS Online Prestel
Paulton House Network House
8 Shepherdess Walk Brindley Way
London Doolittle Meadows Business Park
N1 7LB Aspley, Hemel Hempstead
Herts HP3 9RR
Tel 071 4900049 Tel 0442 237237
Yet more information on the subject can be obtained by sending the following
mail message to uk.ac.janet.news : -
For any Americans reading this, CompuServe, America Online, Prodigy, Delphi and
plenty of others are all public service providers. These four are mentioned
here individually because as well as connection to the outside world, they
also offer various things such as bulletin boards, recipe collections, and chit
chat groups some of which are of specific interest to veg*ns. More details on
this are in the VRG guide, as detailed at the end of the main body of text.
*** APPENDIX TWO ***
*** Brian and the art of FTP file transfer ***
FTP stands for "File Transfer Protocol". The term can refer either to the
protocol or to the programs that implement it. FTP allows file transfer between
machines on the Internet. The FTP client is invoked on the UNIX command line as
ftp <host-name> . Alternatively, the host-name can be specifed with the "open"
command from within ftp. You can access files on any account for which you have
the password. Many systems also make certain files available for any user, via
anonymous ftp. Out of courtesy to the site owners, it is best not to do
transfers (particularly large transfers) during peak hours. This means on
weekdays from 09:00 to 18:00, local time at the site. So it's best to transfer
on a Saturday instead if that's possible ; it will work much quicker too.
So you "FTP" over to wherever the stuff is stored, and log in at their site,
and transfer the information from there. If you can do this directly from your
site then lovely; otherwise use your PAD facility to call uk.ac.nsf.sun and log
in as guestftp with password guestftp . Then you enter a reference (eg fred123)
which then becomes the name of a directory in which anything you transfer gets
temporarily stored, waiting for you to copy it back to your own machine later
on. Now type ftp and then type open and then type in the name of the site you
want to ftp to.
So once connected, you type in the username anonymous and give it your email
address (eg firstname.lastname@example.org) as the password to log in, unless
you have been given a different username and password to use. Now you navigate
around the directories with the cd command (eg, cd recipes to go down a level
into the recipes directory, cd /pub/misc to go into the miscellaneous directory
regardless of what directory you're currently in, or cd .. to go back a level
etc,) and use the ls (or dir) command to list what's in the directory you're
currently in. The command get filename |more doesn't usually work though,
even though in other forms of ftp it does. Its function is to type the file out
onto your terminal so you can see whether you want to transfer it or not.
Files with a d in the first column of the directory listing (instead of a minus
sign) are actually subdirectories which may have some more files in them. Files
and directories in capitals should be typed in like that ! Then when you find a
file you want, type binary if it's not a straight text file, and then type
get filename to retrieve it. This then starts sending the file back to
wherever you came from, ie your own site if you went directly, or the guestftp
site if you connected via there. When you've finished at an ftp site, try exit,
bye, quit, or lo to log off. (Those of you who connected directly can go back
to the main body of text now.) Now, to get your file home, type uuencode
and then enter the filename. This creates a new file called filename.uu . This
is a jumbled up version of the original, but it often transfers better.
Now leave guestftp and transfer one or both of the files from there. If you are
using a VAX/VMS computer system the command is probably transfer. If you are
on a UNIX system the command is probably hhcp or cpf. The syntaxes of these
commands are as follows : -
$ transfer/delete/format=line UK.AC.NSF.SUN::"fred123/filename" -
- newfilename "guestftp" "guestftp"
% hhcp uk.ac.nsf.sun:fred123/filename newfilename
It then says something like :
[uk.ac.nsf.sun: no stored attributes]
The answer to both the authorisation and password is guestftp in lower case.
For cpf, it's something like :
% cpf email@example.com newfilename
User name on host uk.ac.nsf.sun:-
Password on remote host:-
Again, answer guestftp to both these.
If the original copy of your file transfers OK then wonderful ; if not,
transfer the .uu one, and then unscramble it (probably with the uudecode
command, maybe followed by some further unpacking such as unzip or deboo.)
As an aside, I've described the online interactive method of FTP file transfers
first as it's much more fun, it's quicker, it's easier to understand, and just
has a nicer feel for the new user.
But for those of you who've only got a mail connection to the outside world,
you can still get stuff sent to you by mail by servers set up specifically for
that purpose. The method consists of sending a mail message specifying what you
want done (including the cd and get commands etc) to one computer, which then
goes away and actions your request on the computer you're downloading from, and
then mails you back with the results.
There's a choice of at least two such servers. Firstly, by ftpmail : -
Send mail to firstname.lastname@example.org looking something like this : -
And secondly, by bitftp, send mail to email@example.com (you may have to direct
it through uk.ac.earn-relay instead of nsfnet-relay) something like this : -
FTP foo.bar.edu UUENCODE
Unless you know exactly what file in what directory you're looking for, you'll
have to do it in stages, ie mail it to ask for a directory listing, wait for
the reply, mail it requesting to log in, change to a different directory, and
do a directory listing, etc, until you're ready to send a message with the get
command in it. Allow a day or two for each message to get back to you, so the
whole process can be somewhat time consuming, but you can have lots of
different requests processing at a time.
*** APPENDIX THREE ***
Reading and posting to USENET.
Depending on which institution you're at, you may or may not have a newsreader
that you can use. If you do, the command to run it may be one of these four : -
nn, rn, trn, news. Or it might be one of those commands followed by the name of
the group you wish to access. If you get stuck, ask your system manager. If you
have a newsfeed then fine, you're lucky. Likewise if you can post directly from
your site then that's good. But for those of us like me stuck at non-internet
sites with no such facilities, more ingenuity is required : -
OK so to read USENET you have to find somewhere where it's on public display.
One such site is in Birmingham. To get there, use something called PAD to call
a site called NISS. You may have to get help with finding your PAD facility.
Once in NISS, pick Campus Information Systems, and then select Birmingham. This
connects you to the right site, where you can log in and follow the menus.
You may also be able to get to Birmingham's newsreader using the command : -
pad call/x29 bham.info , and then logging in as newsread. For
the more adventurous, you can use telnet and read it in loads more places. One
such place is panda.uiowa.edu . Another place worth telnetting to is
freenet-in-a.cwru.edu - if you can get through and survive the menus. A little
perseverence with exploring once you're in will probably get you to something
useful or interesting. If you haven't got proper telnet you'll have
to use PAD to call the guest telnet service at uk.ac.nsf.tn . Finally if you
have a thing called a gopher client you can hop about all over the world and
read the news almost anywhere you like. (Gopher clients are covered in a little
bit more detail back in the main body of text.)
And to actually post something to USENET is also possible even if you haven't
got the program running at your site to do it directly. The hard way is to find
out where the news is stored and FTP file transfer your message over there. The
quick way is to mail it to firstname.lastname@example.org and it will be
automatically posted for you. Also there's an anonymous posting service in
Finland you can all use ! Please do not overuse or abuse these services though,
as they're the only ones I know of and I don't want them to be withdrawn.
*** APPENDIX FOUR ***
TELNET MEDLARS.NLM.NIH.GOV or 220.127.116.11
Account needed to access MEDLINE.
For assistance please Call NLM Customer Service: 703-555-1212
Information about establishing an account can be obtained from the
Grateful Med BBS at 800-525-5756 or by calling the MEDLARS Management
Section at the National Library of Medicine at 800-638-8480.
E-mail help for establishing accounts and answering questions may be
available at email@example.com .
Two other places to get medical info : -
1) TELNET (or guest-telnet) to PANAM2.PANAM.EDU or 18.104.22.168
This connects you to University of Texas-Pan American
At the Username prompt, enter PACKEY
At the main menu press 3 for Other Library Catalogs
Press 10 to connect
At the Username Prompt, enter LIS
2) Telnet to jeflin.tju.edu and take it from there.
For UK users, You need to contact the International MEDLARS Center in the UK.
Otherwise, when you come to try to access medline, you'll probably get stuck
when it asks you to enter your account !
Here's the address:
The British Library
Boston Spa, Wetherby
West Yorkshire LS23 7BQ
FAX: 44-71-323-7018 (For the UK, replace 44-71 with 071 I think.)
They will be able to answer your questions.
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Internet Relay Chat stuff, by Gedge.
As the name implies, this is basically a talker program. On-line
discussions are relayed around the world by IRC servers. You connect
to your local server using an IRC client, or by telnet to a public
client (of which the numbers are dwindling due to abuse). The only one
we know of left in Europe is in Austria; telnet to it as
ircclient.itc.univie.ac.at 6668 .
Once connected, you can send messages to individual's screens or, more
commonly, by joining a group of people on a 'channel' and what you
type is then sent to everyone on that channel. At a typical moment,
2000 people are on IRC, residing in 800 or so channels. Some channels
have two people in them, some have 20!
There is usually a channel called '#veggies' running, where veg'ans can
meet and talk. The channel is maintained by an automaton, 'VeganSrv',
that answers simple questions via messages, '/msg vegansrv help'.
To obtain a client, one must ftp the source code and compile it on a
machine connected to the Internet. One place where source codes can be
found is src.doc.ic.ac.uk in the computing/comms/irc/clients directory.
If you need a server to point your client at, try irc.funet.fi . It
really takes someone who has a basic grounding in these matters to do
this at all easily but a little perseverance goes a long way. For more
info, please contact firstname.lastname@example.org .
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The Vegetarian Resource Group (VRG)
P.O. Box 1463, Dept. GR
Baltimore, MD 21203
The Vegetarian Resource Group (VRG) is a non-profit organization dedicated
to educating the public on vegetarianism and the interrelated issues of
health, nutrition, ecology, ethics, and world hunger. For more information,
send a stamped self-addressed envelope to the above address.
Their "Vegetarians Online" guide and its updates and other useful publications
can be emailed to you if you contact Brad Scott, whose internet address is
email@example.com (use this in preference to his Compuserve address.) He also has
an updated version of the Vegetarian Resource Group Catalog available for
anyone who is interested in ordering cookbooks, nutrition books, the Vegetarian
Journal, bumper stickers, or post cards. Just drop him or firstname.lastname@example.org an
email. They also discount to groups for reselling, so if you're interested, ask
about their group prices too. Thanks.
List of other materials available from the VRG : -
>From the nutrition section of the book, _Simply Vegan_ by
Debra Wasserman and Reed Mangels, PhD, RD, information on
the following nutrients: Iron, Calcium, Vit B12.
Vegetarian Journal excerpts from the following issues: Jan/Feb 94; Mar/Apr 94;
May/Jun 94; Nov/Dec 93; Sep/Oct 93; Jul/Aug 93
"Diabetes and a Vegetarian Diet" by Virginia Messina, MPH, RD
"Nutrition and the Eye" by Jay Lavine, MD
"A Shopper's Guide to Leather Alternatives" by Sally Clinton
Vegetarian Journal's Foodservice Update--the premier issue, edited
by Mary Clifford, RD
"Tips for Introducing Vegetarian Foods Into Institutions" by Jennifer Raymond
Heart Healthy Eating Tips--Vegetarian Style, a brochure
Vegetarianism in a Nutshell--brochure in English or Spanish
"Hilary Davis: Profile of a Young Activist" from How On Earth!
Announcing _How On Earth!_, a newsletter for and by vegetarian teens
"Rethinking Restaurant Tipping" by Carole Hamlin
"A Senior's Guide to Good Nutrition" by Suzanne Havala, MS, RD
"Humans are Omnivores" adapted from a talk by John McArdle, PhD
"What's in Fast Food--An Update on Vegetarian Items" by
Michael Keevican, from the May/June 94 VJ.
"Business Travel Ideas for Vegetarians" by Virginia Messina, RD
Vegan Passover recipes, including a sample seder menu. From _No Cholesterol
Passover Recipes_ by Debra Wasserman and Charles Stahler and _The Lowfat Jewish
Vegetarian Cookbook_ by Debra Wasserman. Also includes sources for lacto-ovo
vegetarian recipes for Passover.
"Not Just for Breakfast--Light Pancakes and Waffles" by Nanette
Blanchard. Recipe article reprint from VJ.
"Potato Power" by Jacqueline Dunnington. Recipe reprint from VJ.
American Dietetic Association's paper on vegetarian diets, Nov 93.
All files are also available (or will be shortly) via anonymous ftp from
ftp.informatik.uni-hamburg.de in the subdirectory
/pub/doc/vegetarian or via World Wide Web from the Vegetarian Pages
at http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Vegetarian under "More VRG Articles".
Many of these files are available in the libraries of the major online
services (CompuServe, America Online GEnie and Delphi) or from private BBS.
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