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Dear Sriman Vijayasarathy,
                          The following may also (in addition to Sri
Varadhan's post) shed some light on your query.

 During Swami Emberumanar's time there was a dispute as to whether the
archa tirumeni in Tirumalai was that of Emberuman or Siva or Shakti
etc. Despite Swami Emberumanar's attempts to present multiple evidence
to the fact that it was Emberuman who was the presiding deity, the
turmoil continued as Swami's words fell on deaf ears. Finally, it was
decided that the sanctom sanctorum would be filled with ayudhams of
different deities and the doors secured for the night. In the morning
when the doors were opened, it was reasoned that  those ayudhams that
were typical of the presiding deity would be taken up. Lo and behold!
 Emberuman took up the Tiruvazhi and Tiruchakaram which all of us
behold today at Tirumalai. 

As to the question of why the deity had no wepaons prior to this
incident, is the fact that Lord Srinivasan lent his Tiruchakram and
Tiruvazhi to his devotee Tondaman Chakravarti for assistance in the
latter's armed conflicts. Thus, at the point of Swami Emberumanar's
intervention, Emberuman's tirumeni at Tirumalai was without the
traditional  conch and discuss. This situation encouraged rival sects
to advance arguments that the deity at Tirumalai was Shiva, Shakti
etc. Swami Emberumanar's intervention helped to secure these ayudhams
for Emberuman. Sampradayam holds that the individual who invests
people with "changka - chakra laanchanam" is the acharyan. Swami
Emberumanar invested  Tiruvengadamudaiyan with changkam and chakaram
and may thus be regarded as HIS acharyan. Therefore the upadesha
mudra. This is not adiyen's thesis. Adiyen became aware of this angle
based on a traditional upanyasam. Unfortunately, adiyen is not able to
recall the scholar and is wary of hazarding a guess. 

Additionally based on traditional accounts, books published by TTD
etc. no other acharyan is mentioned in this connection. Considering
Swami Emberumanar's monumental contribuition (without which this
glorious divya desam and Emberuman who was hailed by Azhvar as
"alarmel mangai urai marbha" may not have continued as a  Sri
Vaishnava Tirutalam!!!)  in regard to Tirumalai it hardly surprising
that this one and only one acharya has sannidhi inside the temple. 

regards

rAmAnuja dAsan,
Vedaraman Sriraman



--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, vijayasarathy iyengar
<ramanujadasan86@xxxx> wrote:
> adiyen 
> ramanujadasan
>            adiyen is totally confused of the fact happening  in
thirumalai.the thirumeni of deity bhaskara in thirumalai srinivasan
sannidi is presented to devariers in the attachment. actually he is
present in the temple with ubdesa mudra and with oolai suvadi in his
hand and this idiol  without thirukodi suits very well for swami
vedanta desigan. now i am in a confusion that wheather the thirumeni
present is desigan and not ramanuja or else since swami is called
bhasyakara or the writer of bhasyams he holds that thirumeni in
thirumala. or any other specific reason for it . i request periyavas
to tell me this and clear my iyyam.
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