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Sreemathe Ramanujaya Namaha:
This is the version we have all heard from even our grandparents. The 
Vigraham is known to be that of Emberumaanaar. What is new now? Also I would 
like to know why the subject matter is referred to as "terror in Thirumala"?
Adiyen,
dasan,
ramanujam
Alwar Emberumaanaar Jeeyar Tiruvadigale Saranam.

>From: "vedaramansriraman" <vedaramansriraman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [ramanuja] Re: terror in thirumala
>Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 23:19:55 -0000
>
>
>Dear Sriman Vijayasarathy,
>                           The following may also (in addition to Sri
>Varadhan's post) shed some light on your query.
>
>  During Swami Emberumanar's time there was a dispute as to whether the
>archa tirumeni in Tirumalai was that of Emberuman or Siva or Shakti
>etc. Despite Swami Emberumanar's attempts to present multiple evidence
>to the fact that it was Emberuman who was the presiding deity, the
>turmoil continued as Swami's words fell on deaf ears. Finally, it was
>decided that the sanctom sanctorum would be filled with ayudhams of
>different deities and the doors secured for the night. In the morning
>when the doors were opened, it was reasoned that  those ayudhams that
>were typical of the presiding deity would be taken up. Lo and behold!
>  Emberuman took up the Tiruvazhi and Tiruchakaram which all of us
>behold today at Tirumalai.
>
>As to the question of why the deity had no wepaons prior to this
>incident, is the fact that Lord Srinivasan lent his Tiruchakram and
>Tiruvazhi to his devotee Tondaman Chakravarti for assistance in the
>latter's armed conflicts. Thus, at the point of Swami Emberumanar's
>intervention, Emberuman's tirumeni at Tirumalai was without the
>traditional  conch and discuss. This situation encouraged rival sects
>to advance arguments that the deity at Tirumalai was Shiva, Shakti
>etc. Swami Emberumanar's intervention helped to secure these ayudhams
>for Emberuman. Sampradayam holds that the individual who invests
>people with "changka - chakra laanchanam" is the acharyan. Swami
>Emberumanar invested  Tiruvengadamudaiyan with changkam and chakaram
>and may thus be regarded as HIS acharyan. Therefore the upadesha
>mudra. This is not adiyen's thesis. Adiyen became aware of this angle
>based on a traditional upanyasam. Unfortunately, adiyen is not able to
>recall the scholar and is wary of hazarding a guess.
>
>Additionally based on traditional accounts, books published by TTD
>etc. no other acharyan is mentioned in this connection. Considering
>Swami Emberumanar's monumental contribuition (without which this
>glorious divya desam and Emberuman who was hailed by Azhvar as
>"alarmel mangai urai marbha" may not have continued as a  Sri
>Vaishnava Tirutalam!!!)  in regard to Tirumalai it hardly surprising
>that this one and only one acharya has sannidhi inside the temple.
>
>regards
>
>rAmAnuja dAsan,
>Vedaraman Sriraman
>
>
>







azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam
 
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