Sri: Srimate Ramanujaya Nama: Respected adiyArs, In the Bhagavad Gita, just 3 shlokas before the famous Charama Shloka, Perumal says (18.63) iti te jnanam akhyatam guhyad guhyataram maya vimrsyaitad asesena yathecchasi tatha kuru Meaning: Thus I have explained to you the most confidential of all knowledge. Deliberate on this fully, and then do what you wish to do. Here Krishna gives the Choice to the Jeevatma, Arjuna being the representation of the Jeevas. Kindly notice that this statement totally contradicts the concept of Nirhetuka Kripa. If one quotes the Charama Shloka, in which Lord Krishna asks the Jeevatma for total surrender and that is the concept ofPrapatti, one should also realize that this Shloka is a prelude to the Charama Shloka, Krishna says, in the next verse (BG 18.64 ), ?Because you are My very dear friend, I am speaking to you the most confidential part of knowledge. Hear this from Me, for it is for your benefit?. And then goes on with the Charama Shloka. So the crux of the issue is this: Perumal gives the choice to the Jeevatma,regarding what to do and what not to do. Meaning, the Jeevatma has free-will (definitely!!). How are we to understand that we don?t have any freewill, and Moksha is 100% dependent on His will, without not even an iota of our effort?? I request the Bhagavatas in this forum to kindly address this query of mine. AzhwAr emperumAnAr Jeeyar ThiruvadigaLE Saranam. Dasan, Kidambi Soundararajan. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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