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Dear Swamy,
 
Money has been the deciding factor not only now but also in the olden days.  To mix money with religion and God is to be discouraged by all.  But this needs coordinated action from all not only in letters but also in sprit.
 
Simply by handing over the temples to the MUTTs will not solve the problem.  Unless one realies that one should not make/mint money in the name of GOD,
it makes no difference whether the temple lies in the hands of MUTTs/governments.
 
It is the attitude, religious faith and conviction of an individual which is more important in this matter. A PERSON WHO IS HONEST AND FULL OF INTEGRITY WILL BE ALWAYS LIKE THAT WHETHER HE IS IN THE STREETS OR IN THE PALACE.
 
Thousand and thousands of words may not be enough to convince one about this.  Thiruvengadamudaiyan HIMSELF has to inculcate among all his devotess the gnana that one is who is rich today is poor the next day.  It is  at HIS SANKALPA  one becomes rich and another becomes poor.  Though one needs money for the survival, that wealth should not make him arrogant/make him feel superior to all others.  But this matearial wealth makes one think superior not only to other mortals but also to GOD.  The real wealth is not material pleasure but OUR ACHARYAN EMBERUMANAR RAMANUJA.
 
If this gnana is attained by all, everybody will become KOORATHUAZHWAN.
 
To attain this gnana, we have to pray with folded hands and fall at  the LOTUS FEET OF SWAMY RAMANUJA. 
 

suresh iyengar <kp_suresh512@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Swamy Vishnu
 
adiyEn have slightly differing view here. The people who consider one perumal more powerful than other would be very less compared to the accessibility and the popularity based on the advertisements by devotee makes one go to one kShetram over the other. For sure any one from north hearing about Swamy Namalwar would want to go to thirukurungudi.For those north indians who go up to Rameshwaram it is not difficult to go to Thirukurungudi. But they are not popularised or not accessible easily. In fact I have seen many do not want to even try to go to any other place in view of the financial condition or other reasons, and they say perumal is in home itself then why they have to go to another place.
 
Hence the 108 Divya desam is similar concept to popularizing places, so that at the least people would go there. Common people those who are worshiping God for benefit would want to take very least steps and try to attain maximum profit. Hence they would want to go to place nearby or to those popular and accessible places. Those devotees who are above that would want to go to all divya ksHetrams in the boolokam, still refined devotee would want to walk all over the earth to seek those places where he can connect with God and his pure devotees places of past times.
 
It is the level of initiation towards one goal, that mostly matters.
 
Comming back to the ticket price, the exclusivism is the result of materialistic pursuit of those who are administering temples and not because of any other reason. Is it right or wrong is highly debatable as general people are not much in to the concept of God and they are more in to solving their daily issues. So if one need to be pulled in to doing some thing Godly, they need to be motivated. There are so many motivating agents such as advertising the greatness of a place, the diety etc and consequently popularising that place. Once done then there will be many willing to pay any price to get a chance to do certain activities. Hence that concept ensures its logivity as this is material world and in order for sustaining any concept, we require material opulance.  Only difference is in the olden days our acharyas focus was to redeem people hence all principles were concentrated towards them, where as now it is business where the concentration is to the place.
 
Solution: as per adiyen's opinion which is our poorvacharya's way, to remove the administration from the shakles of Government and hand over to religious heads. Government was existing earlier also during the king's rule but our poorvacharyas did not gave the administration to King. Instead they established Math and Math heads to control and administer temples. So that they will be rendering services selflessly, perpetually in parampara system.
 
adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan
 
Suresh
 
 
 


 
----- Original Message ----
From: Vishnu <vsmvishnu@yahoo.co.in>
To: ramanuja@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 6:59:13 AM
Subject: Re: [sri ramanuja] Tirumala Abhishekam ticket price hiked

People believe in gradation of power of Lord, as they are not
exposed to the fundamentals of Vaishnavism. Even near the metro
Chennai, a few divyadesams like Thiruneermalai and Thiruninravur are
not well-attended while Triplicane, Thiruvallur and Sholingar are
thronged by thousands of devotees. This is because people believe so
and so Perumal is "more powerful".

Perumal and His powers are not limited by space and time, as
explained by Parasara Bhattar for the words "anAdi nidhanam"
and "vishNum". Even His incarnation as narasimha (whom many worship
to get rid of ailments) proves that He is omnipresent.

The concept of 108 divya dESams is also of later origin and was not
mooted by pUrvAchAryas. It is the purpose and intent of Azhwars to
praise the Lord wherever He is, not just the places mentioned in the
divya prabandham.

adiyen
Vishnu
--- In ramanuja@yahoogroup s.com, pritesh patel <tesh_tel@.. .> wrote:
>
> Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha
>
> Jai Sri krishna
>
> What is the opinion of the repsected bhakthas in this forum on
this hike in price of ticket???? I personaly do not agree with it.
I recenlty attended a Kumbhabhishekam were sponsers who donated
large ammounts of cash become yajmans and got best seats and 1st
access to all the pujas, whilst others had to que for long hours. I
found that this system often upset many non-paying devotees, who
were were told at rituals that yajmans only or yajmans 1st. I felt
that with this paying system created an elitist atmosphere which
was opposite to feelings of satsang, equality and brotherhood.
>
> amudala satyanarayana <scribesatya@ ...> wrote:
> Tirumala Abhishekam ticket price hiked
>
> Tirupati, Oct.12, 2006 (TIRUPATITIMES. COM)
> The Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanams (TTD) which manages the
famous hill shrine of Lord Venkateswara at Tirumala near here today
has decided to hike the price of Friday's rituals -Abhishekam seva
ticket from Rs 750 to Rs.2,500 and Vastralankara seva ticket from Rs
12,250 to Rs.50,000.
>
> The TTD Board in its monthly meeting on the hills on Thursday
has also decided to extend invitation to the President of India, Mr.
A..P.J.Abdul Kalam to release the 12 volumes of Sri Bhagavatham to
be published by TTD in December next, temple sources said.
>
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