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Dear Sriman Suresh swami,

I agree with your view also:) But the point I was driving towards in 
my previous mail was different. There are many villages and towns 
with beautiful sannidhis for emberumAn. Locals of these people never 
bother to go to these temples but take up yAtrAs to 
Thirumalai/Sholingar for the fulfilment of their wishes. After all 
it is the same SrimannArAyaNan Who is blessing with His presence in 
these temples in the villages/towns. Instead of putting thousands of 
rupees in the Tirupati temple Hundi, is it not better for these 
people to offer a few rupees to a temple in their own locality for 
its survival? 

adiyen
Vishnu

--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, suresh iyengar <kp_suresh512@...> 
wrote:
>
> Swamy Vishnu
> 
> adiyEn have slightly differing view here. The people who consider 
one perumal more powerful than other would be very less compared to 
the accessibility and the popularity based on the advertisements by 
devotee makes one go to one kShetram over the other. For sure any 
one from north hearing about Swamy Namalwar would want to go to 
thirukurungudi.For those north indians who go up to Rameshwaram it 
is not difficult to go to Thirukurungudi. But they are not 
popularised or not accessible easily. In fact I have seen many do 
not want to even try to go to any other place in view of the 
financial condition or other reasons, and they say perumal is in 
home itself then why they have to go to another place. 
> 
> Hence the 108 Divya desam is similar concept to popularizing 
places, so that at the least people would go there. Common people 
those who are worshiping God for benefit would want to take very 
least steps and try to attain maximum profit. Hence they would want 
to go to place nearby or to those popular and accessible places. 
Those devotees who are above that would want to go to all divya 
ksHetrams in the boolokam, still refined devotee would want to walk 
all over the earth to seek those places where he can connect with 
God and his pure devotees places of past times.
> 
> It is the level of initiation towards one goal, that mostly 
matters.
> 
> Comming back to the ticket price, the exclusivism is the result of 
materialistic pursuit of those who are administering temples and not 
because of any other reason. Is it right or wrong is highly 
debatable as general people are not much in to the concept of God 
and they are more in to solving their daily issues. So if one need 
to be pulled in to doing some thing Godly, they need to be 
motivated. There are so many motivating agents such as advertising 
the greatness of a place, the diety etc and consequently 
popularising that place. Once done then there will be many willing 
to pay any price to get a chance to do certain activities. Hence 
that concept ensures its logivity as this is material world and in 
order for sustaining any concept, we require material opulance.  
Only difference is in the olden days our acharyas focus was to 
redeem people hence all principles were concentrated towards them, 
where as now it is business where the concentration is to the place. 
> 
> Solution: as per adiyen's opinion which is our poorvacharya's way, 
to remove the administration from the shakles of Government and hand 
over to religious heads. Government was existing earlier also during 
the king's rule but our poorvacharyas did not gave the 
administration to King. Instead they established Math and Math heads 
to control and administer temples. So that they will be rendering 
services selflessly, perpetually in parampara system.
> 
> adiyEn rAmAnuja dAsan
> 
> Suresh
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Vishnu <vsmvishnu@...>
> To: ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 6:59:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [sri ramanuja] Tirumala Abhishekam ticket price hiked
> 
> People believe in gradation of power of Lord, as they are not 
> exposed to the fundamentals of Vaishnavism. Even near the metro 
> Chennai, a few divyadesams like Thiruneermalai and Thiruninravur 
are 
> not well-attended while Triplicane, Thiruvallur and Sholingar are 
> thronged by thousands of devotees. This is because people believe 
so 
> and so Perumal is "more powerful". 
> 
> Perumal and His powers are not limited by space and time, as 
> explained by Parasara Bhattar for the words "anAdi nidhanam" 
> and "vishNum". Even His incarnation as narasimha (whom many 
worship 
> to get rid of ailments) proves that He is omnipresent.
> 
> The concept of 108 divya dESams is also of later origin and was 
not 
> mooted by pUrvAchAryas. It is the purpose and intent of Azhwars to 
> praise the Lord wherever He is, not just the places mentioned in 
the 
> divya prabandham.
> 
> adiyen
> Vishnu
> --- In ramanuja@yahoogroup s.com, pritesh patel <tesh_tel@ .> 
wrote:
> >
> > Srimathe Ramanujaya Namaha
> > 
> > Jai Sri krishna
> > 
> > What is the opinion of the repsected bhakthas in this forum on 
> this hike in price of ticket???? I personaly do not agree with it. 
> I recenlty attended a Kumbhabhishekam were sponsers who donated 
> large ammounts of cash become yajmans and got best seats and 1st 
> access to all the pujas, whilst others had to que for long hours. 
I 
> found that this system often upset many non-paying devotees, who 
> were were told at rituals that yajmans only or yajmans 1st. I felt 
> that with this paying system created an elitist atmosphere which 
> was opposite to feelings of satsang, equality and brotherhood. 
> > 
> > amudala satyanarayana <scribesatya@ ...> wrote:
> > Tirumala Abhishekam ticket price hiked
> > 
> > Tirupati, Oct.12, 2006 (TIRUPATITIMES. COM)
> > The Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanams (TTD) which manages the 
> famous hill shrine of Lord Venkateswara at Tirumala near here 
today 
> has decided to hike the price of Friday's rituals -Abhishekam seva 
> ticket from Rs 750 to Rs.2,500 and Vastralankara seva ticket from 
Rs 
> 12,250 to Rs.50,000.
> > 
> > The TTD Board in its monthly meeting on the hills on Thursday 
> has also decided to extend invitation to the President of India, 
Mr. 
> A..P.J.Abdul Kalam to release the 12 volumes of Sri Bhagavatham to 
> be published by TTD in December next, temple sources said.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Send instant messages to your online friends 
> http://uk.messenger .yahoo.com
> >
>






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