Asmath Gurubhyo Namaha Shrimathey Ramanujaya Namaha Shrimathey Nigamantha Maha Deshikaya Namaha I would like to thank Shriman Muralidharan for having done the translation on my behalf. This only goes to show how much devoted and quick others are in their bhakti towards Lord Rama /Shri Seetha and also their Acharyas when compared to me. Esteemed Bhagavatas may also note that even in the staunchest of Veera Shaiva temples, an idol of Hanuman will be present failing which his form would atleast be engraved/sculpted in one of the pillars. This also clearly shows the association of Hanuman's origin to Shiva. We will not be able to find any association to Shri Vaishnavism in these temples other than such Hanuman idols/sculptures. Even the Chennai Kapaleeshwarar temple is evidence to this. Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan JMuralidharan <Jayem_Comcol@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: SrI: Pl. see the website http://pavanchawla.tripod.com/ and http://www.chinmayamission.org/html/article/show.php3?cnum=19 for English Translation of Hanuman Chalisa, wherein it is clearly written that "Sankar Suvan, Kesari nandan....jag bandan" means "A re-incarnation of Lord Shankar and son of Kesari, Hanuman's glory and lustre are propitiated by the whole universe". adiyEn Srimad Azhagiya Singar Thiruvadi ----- Original Message ----- From: Parag Desai To: Vasudevan VK ; Gopinath Varadharajan ; Vasan Sriranga Chari ; Arvind Rangan ; Dr. V. NARASIMHAN Cc: srirangasri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 11:19 PM Subject: Re: Re: [SriRangaSri] ANJANEYA WORSHIP Prabho, on what basis did you make your statement, "at other places, like in Hanuman Chalisa itself, we see that Hanuman is considered to be the avatar of Shiva". There is no such statement anywhere in the scriptures, or even in the Hanuman Chalisa. Can you substantiate your claim? Tell me the verse from Hanuman Chalisa that states that Hanuman is an incarnation of Shiva. -Parag Vasudevan VK <vasuchak@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Asmath Gurubhyo Namaha Shrimathey Ramanujaya Namaha Shrimathey Nigamantha Maha Deshikaya Namaha Respected Bhagavathas, It is indeed very interesting that Shrimad Azhagiya Shingar has made this observation. On the one hand, we have Swami Deshikan saying that we have to worship Hanuman as a Parama Bhagavata but at other places, like in Hanuman Chalisa itself, we see that Hanuman is considered to be the avatar of Shiva. We also see that Swami Deshikan has not composed any separate poem/stotra on Hanuman like he has done for Andal, Periya Thiruvadi or Sudarshanar. In the light of all this, in the Shrivaishnava tradition, it is clear that Hanuman should not be worshipped independently but only as a bhakta of Lord Rama or may be Lord Krishna. While going through one of my acharyan father's several hand-written notebooks, I remember to have seen a note made to the effect that the great scholar Shriman D.T.Tatachar was of the opinion that Hanuman should not be worshipped without the Dhivya Dhampathis Rama and Seetha. This is exactly what the varthamana Azhagiya Shingar has conveyed too. Therefore, my humble opinion is that while we can recite shlokas in praise of Hanuman from Shrimad Ramayanam, it may not be proper for us to recite shlokas like "buddhir balam..." Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan Gopinath Varadharajan <vgopinath@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: In on of HIS Tele-Upanyasam, Srimad Azahgiya Singar told that we should not pray Sri Anjaneya, if he is Installed Alone (like seperate Anjaneya Temple) He should be prayed only when he is seen along with Sri Sita Rama Ghosti. Pls. correct me if my understanding was wrong. Gopi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. V. NARASIMHAN" <shanaras@xxxxxxxx> To: "Vasan Sriranga Chari" <vasan_chari_hk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Arvind Rangan" <arvind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: <srirangasri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 1:02 PM Subject: Re: Re: [SriRangaSri] ANJANEYA WORSHIP Dear Bhagavathas, You all may be delighted to visit the web-site www.panchamukha.org Kind regards, narasimha dasan Yahoo! Groups Links --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SriRangaSri/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: SriRangaSri-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] --------------------------------- Yahoo! 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