Sri: Srimathe Ramanujaya Nama: Srimath Varavara Munaye Nama: Dear Sri. Balaji Swamin, Kindly accept adiyen's humble pranams. It is beyound doubt and with no ambiguity vedas and upanishads have specified the supremacy of Sriman Narayanan. It is also clear that the means to attain Him is only Him. And chanting His divine names (which are nothing but His auspicious qualities) must be the only past time of all the chetanas. Having stated this, it is well known to all of us that the various vaishnava sampradhayams have different variations of approaches and put emphasis on different mantrams and practices. In this regard, the Hare Krishna mantram is something Sri Vaishnavas do not follow. In each school, our poorvacharyas have prescribed us specific steps to be followed. Anything not mentioned or accepted by them is not only to be against your own acharyas, but that practice would be fruitless. Hence, with due respect to Gaudiya Vaishnava and their beliefs and practices, adiyen beg to differ with you in requesting followers from other schools of Vaishnavam, especially Sri Vaishnavas, to chant different mantras. Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan. Sampath Kumar Padmanaban Azhvar Emberumanar Jeeyar Thiruvadikale Saranam Jeeyar Thiruvadikale Saranam Balaji A <balajimails@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: harE krShNa! AzhwArgaL thiruvadigaLE sharaNam! Dear Sri Ramkumar, very perfectly said and I want to add few more lines. Dear Sri Anoop, anything we follow, must be questioned as, "Why should I do? Why should I not do?" So the same thing we must apply here and think, "Why should I chant the holy names of lord hari and this harE krShNa mahA manthram specifically? Why not other manthrAs 108 times?" The answer is: In kalisantharaNa upanishadh, it is stated: harE krShNa harE krShNa krShNa krShNa harE harE harE rAma harE rAma rAma rAma harE harE | ithi shOdashaka nAmnAm kali kalmaSha nAshanam nAthaha paratharOpAyaha sarva vEdhEshu dhrshyathE || (Proof Link: http://www.hindunet.org/alt_hindu/1995_Jan/msg00223.html ) "This collection of sixteen names (of lord nArAyaNa) destroys the evils of the Kali Yuga. There is no, any other effective means (of liberation) if we look in all sections of the Vedas." - lord brahma to shrI nAradha, in kalisantharaNa upanishadh. [Note: Some consider first harE rAma and then harE krShNa. And some consider, first harE krShNa and then harE rAma. However you chant, it doesn't matter and kindly don't bother too much about this. You will get the same result in whichever way you chant. To read full history for the reason for reversing, kindly read in the following link: http://www.hindunet.org/alt_hindu/1995_Jan/msg00223.html ] So it is recommended to chant this at least 16 rounds (108 x 16 rounds) as our past devotees has specifically stressed "at least 16 rounds are must". And in general time also, if possible one can continue the same. Or else a person can always utter the holy names of lord viShNu, as stated in brhadh nAradhIya purANam: harErnAma harErnAma harErnAmaiva kEvalam | kalou nAsthi kalou nAsthi kalou nAsthyEva gathiranyatha || (Proof Link 1: http://www.bvashram.org/articles/93/1/Prophecy-of-the-Golden-Age ) (Proof Link 2: http://www.ramanuja.org/sv/bhakti/archives/aug97/0031.html ) (Proof Link 3: http://www.sssct.org/Discourses/2004/ramanavami.htm ) "In the age of Kali there is no other way to achieve the supreme, other than by chanting the holy names of Lord Hari. There is no other way, no other way, no other way." So once if something is stressed for 3 times, one has to take seriously. It is like "Order! Order! Order!". So kindly do practice continuous chanting of the holy names of lord hari/viShNu, so that we all can go that undying and everblissful world where there is no birth, no death, no pains, etc. as confirmed by lord krShNa in BhagavadhgItha in so many shlOkams: One who knows the transcendental nature of My appearance and activities does not, upon leaving the body, take his birth again in this material world, but attains My eternal abode, O Arjuna. (BhagavadhgIthA 4.9) After attaining Me, the great souls, who are yogis in devotion, never return to this temporary world, which is full of miseries, because they have attained the highest perfection. ( BhagavadhgIthA 8.15) >From the highest planet in the material world down to the lowest, all are >places of misery wherein repeated birth and death take place. But one who >attains to My abode, O son of Kunti, never takes birth again. ( BhagavadhgIthA >8.16) Yet there is another nature, which is eternal and is transcendental to this manifested and unmanifested matter. It is supreme and is never annihilated. When all in this world is annihilated, that part remains as it is. That supreme abode is called unmanifested and infallible, and it is the supreme destination. When one goes there, he never comes back in this material world. ( BhagavadhgIthA8.20-21) Those who know the Supreme Brahman (God) pass away from the world during the influence of the fiery god, in the light, at an auspicious moment, during the fortnight of the moon and the six months when the sun travels in the north, never returns in this material world. ( BhagavadhgIthA 8.24) One who is free from illusion, false prestige, and false association, who understands the eternal, who is done with material lust and is freed from the duality of happiness and distress, and who knows how to surrender unto the Supreme Person, attains to that eternal kingdom. That abode of Mine is not illumined by the sun or moon, nor by electricity. One who reaches it never returns to this material world. ( BhagavadhgIthA 15.5-6) So initially, continuously chanting may be bit difficult and you may find cuts or gaps in between the chants. But once you practice this activity for just 1 to 2 months continuously, your chanting comes automatically with your breath. Try to concentrate on the chanting. If not possible, don't get frustrated. Because in shrImadhBhAgavatham 1.1.14, it is stated, "Living beings who are entangled in the complicated meshes of birth and death can be freed immediately by even unconsciously chanting the holy name of Krishna, which is feared by fear personified." (Proof Link: http://srimadbhagavatam.com/1/1/14/en) So I request everyone to chant on the holy names of lord krShNa and harE krShNa mahA manthram and just depend primarily on these two, instead of depending on any other means for any kinds of solutions. - Balaji - The Servant of Devotees! Azhvar EmberumAnAr JeeyAr ThiruvadigalE Saranam http://www.vedics.net SPONSORED LINKS Bhagavad gita Culture Ways of Sri --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "ramanuja" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ramanuja-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! 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