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Dear Bhagavatas:
Enough has been said on the sunject. 
Let us close further discussions and move on.
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Namaste!

I have some pointers for Sri Balaji.

What is a manthra?   Manthra is the one which protects one who contemplates
on it - "mananaat thrayathe iti manthra"  Note the word - manana /
contemplation.

Now what is "manana"?
it is a second stage in the orthodox system of vedaadhyayana -
shravana-manana-nidhidhyasana.

So, without shravana - involving upadesha from an Acharya on scriptures -
manana will not happen.  Various upasanas as ordained in upanishats clearly
proclaim the necessity of these three vareities in brahma jignasa (if one
were to believe vedas and vedic god). So manana is the exaulted stage of
contemplating on Vedic God and definitely not through our prakruthik mind /
intellect.  Manana is possible only when a person has purified his body,
mind, intellect and the soul.

Manthras are given by "manthra drastas"(the ones who had seen the
devatha / bhagavadrupa of that manthra) to deserving disciples.  The procedure
is called "manthropadesha".  Leaving the procedure aside, let us know about
this manthras involving the avowed deities - hari, krishna and rama.

Brahma preaches Narada this manthra as per kalisantharana upanishat.
Leaving out whether this upanishat is valid; whether it is the one among
those quoted by Jagadgurus(Adi Shankara;Ramanuja;Madhwa) etc., still, we can
dwell on how to go about this manthra.  I have taken only three Jagadgurus
above because of various reasons(to my own limited understanding) and the
primary one being they wrote Bhashya on Vyasa's Brahma Sutras.

Who is "brahma" here?  He is called as aja and chants vedas always and using
the purports of it, like a true karma yogi, does creation.  He is the
pithamaha for all of us and is a Brahmagyani.   Narada is the one who
receives this manthra who himself is an avowed sage of incredible deeds in the
field of spirituality.  He is the one who wrote sutras on devotion; one who
is the manthra drasta of dwadasha manthra of Vishnu and is the fittest to
receive this manthra, for, he had fully understood and followed vedic
purports of shravana-manana-nidhidhyasana.  The exchange of this manthra
involving two great souls like Brahma & Narada is the most befitting
situation and the manthra thus taught remains pristine pure.  

Thus manthropadesha occurs/realised to its full potential only when the two
jeevas come with certain qualification in terms of understanding God thru
vedas.

I don't know in the circumstances as mentioned above, how by simply chanting
we get liberation.

Definitely, when Brahma teaching this manthra, he is having Narada's
adhyatmic capabilities in his mind and if not at that stage, atleast we
should be thoroughly disciplined in practising what is ordained in
scriptures to cleanse our mind so as to receive any manthra.

To receive a manthra by internet and by hearing any of Lord's name while going 
in the
streets or hearing Gayathri manthra coming out of a tape recorder in modern
gayathri temples, one will not get liberation.

Each Aksharas in Lord's name, let alone manthras, has its significance.
Why, even everyone of the alphabets carry its own devathas/ bhagavadrupas 
indwelling
in them.  By joining them in a sequence along with a bijaaksharas in a
certain way, we have manthras.

Krishna is not just a name of a God,  it is a subject of Vedas - smritis for
our understanding and contemplation.  My chanting his name, Jagadgurus
chanting his name, Purandara Dasa chanting his name carry different
weightage in terms of anusandhana (if one were to believe that word exists).
It is anusandhana that gets us near to God.  It is the Maha Vishwasa that
gets us near shastras. It is the firm faith in Guru that lets us understand
Vedic God within our own limitation. It is the tradition set forth by
Jagadgurus and their disciples that leads one in the path of above 3
varieties.

Afterall, if one were to think 'just by chanting' his name one gets
liberation etc., only delimiting his 'swathanthratva'.  It is not by our
chanting that we get liberation, it is his krupa which ensures one gets out of
this bondage.  There is no short cuts and leeways in Shastras or in Krishna
Bhakthi.  It is not that easy, for, he is the lord of the universe.  

Vedas
from time immemorial could not fully describe him.  And we are taking it easy
instead of trying out within our own limitation to study scriptures
searching Vishnu for gaining pure happiness / bliss.   Nowhere has Vishnu been
described as in the vedas.  If it seems contradictory, then we have Sutras from
the Lord which fixes the meanings therein for ease of understanding.

If chanting is enough, why Veda Vyasa has to write Sutras/puranas/bhagavatha
and why Jagadgurus have to walk on this earth giving out the purport of
Vyasa's works.

So, sadhana is the utmost importance in our life and with it anusandhana in
whatever we do is essential in the path of spirituality.

Regards
sukumar








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