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Dear Shri. Kannan and Shri. tAtAchar,
In fact in my email sent to the group and to the aurhor who has referred in the 
context of Kalai, I got no reply.  I find that is not a proactive discussion.  
Though, we all belong to Sri. Vaishnava community as a whole we have to stand 
united and project works by either of the group as one, and follow their 
teachings with passion and zeal.  Instead of giving a branding that is only to 
influence widening the gap.
 
I respectfully disagree with any such notion.  Afterall our sampradhyam has 
seen many such debates and disagreement through which we have uplifted 
ourselves towards higher goals in spirutuality.
 
Dasan
Swathi Iyengar


Kannan AMR <kamr@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Swamin,
I agree that there is no disrespect implied when we say one acharya
belongs to Thenkalai or Vadakalai. What I was talking about is bringing
these great acharyas into the narrow bandwidth of kalais. These acharyas
are indeed beyond any kalai bedham and belong to the entire srivaishnava
community. 
Ramanujadasan Kannan


-----Original Message-----
From: tatachar@xxxxxxx [mailto:tatachar@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 2:38 PM
To: kamr@xxxxxxx; SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [SriRangaSri] Venkatesa Suprabatham - Author


Dear Swamin,

Thanks for information on PB Anna.

>>same time respect and appreciate all the works
done by our poorvacharyas.<<

No question about this.

I don't think there is any disrespect implied in identifying one as 
belonging to Tenkalai or Vadakalai. 



dasan

k.S. tAtAchAr

-----Original Message-----
From: Kannan AMR 
To: SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:52:56 -0400
Subject: RE: [SriRangaSri] Venkatesa Suprabatham - Author


Sri Prathivadhi Bhayangaram Annan is a unique poorvacharya who has

composed Sri Sukthis on Swami Desikan (Sapthadhi Rathna Malika) and

Swami Manavala Mamunigal (Sri Vara Vara Muni suprabhatham etc). Sri

Annan did his Sri Bhashya kalakshepam under Kumara Varadhacharyar (Swami

Desikan's son) and won a debate with an Advaitin (Narasimha Misra) and

established the supremacy of Vishistadwita 

Siddhanta got the title 'Prathivadhi Bhayankaram' from his Acharyan

Kumara Varadacharyar. Sri Anna became a disciple of Swamy Manavala

Mamunigal and was one of the Ashta Dighgajas (Eight indomitable 

Acharyas) to propagate SriVaishnava philosophy. His thaniyan sloka says

he is the receptor of Sri Desikan's Kataksham and Sri Mamunigal's

Karunai. 



VedantaDesika Kataksha Vivruththa Bhodham

Kanthobhayanthrumina: Karunaika pathram

Vathsaanvavaaya manavadhya Gunairubhedham

Bhakthya Bhajami Prathivadhi Bhayangararyam 



Also on a sidenote, I don't think we could classify many of our

poorvacharyas as either Thenkalai or Vadakalai. Sri Pillai Lokachariar,

Sri Desikan, Sri Periyavachchan Pillai, Sri Manavala Mamunigal, Sri

Annan and many other Acharyas belong to the entire Sri Vaishanva

community. Without Sri Mamunigal's commentary on Periyazhwar Thirumozhi

how could we ever understand Azhwar's Bhagavadh anubahvams? Another

striking example is Sri Ranga Ramanuja muni, who is a prominent acharya

of Munithrya Sampradhayam. Without Sri Ranga Ramanuja Muni's commentary

on all the major upanishads (Sri Ranga Ramanuja Muni has written

commentaries for all the major Upanishads except Isa and Supalah,

because Sri Sruthaprakasika Bhattar has written a commentary on

Supalopanishadh and Sri Desikan and Sri Kura Narayana Jeer Swami has

written commentaries on Isavashya) based on Vishistadwita philosophy, it

would be highly difficult understand the esoteric meanings of these

upanishads. Even the recent acharyas like Sri Uththamoor Swami and

Kanchipuram PBA swami has done so much to our sampradhayam, they truly

belong to our entire SriVaishanava community. Though these acharyas had

some difference of opinions on certain things, still they did not create

a dharshanam or religion of their own. Every one of them contributed

towards Sri Ramanuja Dharshanam. Let us follow whatever sampradhyam we

belong to, and at the same time respect and appreciate all the works

done by our poorvacharyas.



Adiyen Ramanujadasan Kannan









-----Original Message-----

From: SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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On Behalf Of Vasan Sriranga Chari

Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:21 AM

To: Sridharan

Cc: SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Subject: Re: [SriRangaSri] Venkatesa Suprabatham - Author





Dear all:

This SRIMAD PRATIVADI BHAYANKARAM ANNANGARACHARIAR SWAMI is different

from another namesake who lived until recently in Kanchipuram and whose

KaalakshEpams I had the Bhaghyam of attending as a school boy. Dasoham

Anbil Ramaswamy

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SRIMATE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA,

The venkatesa suprabhatam is composed by SRIMAD PRATIVADI BHAYANKARAM

ANNA who was shishya of SWAMI MANAVALA MUNIGAL of 14th century.He talks

of SWAMI MANAVALA MUNIGAL in this composition. dasan



On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 Sridharan wrote :

>Hello All,

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>I would like to know who wrote the Venkatesa Suprabatham. Also is there

>a link where i can find the translation for the Solgam?

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