Dear Swamin, I agree that there is no disrespect implied when we say one acharya belongs to Thenkalai or Vadakalai. What I was talking about is bringing these great acharyas into the narrow bandwidth of kalais. These acharyas are indeed beyond any kalai bedham and belong to the entire srivaishnava community. Ramanujadasan Kannan -----Original Message----- From: tatachar@xxxxxxx [mailto:tatachar@xxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 2:38 PM To: kamr@xxxxxxx; SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [SriRangaSri] Venkatesa Suprabatham - Author Dear Swamin, Thanks for information on PB Anna. >>same time respect and appreciate all the works done by our poorvacharyas.<< No question about this. I don't think there is any disrespect implied in identifying one as belonging to Tenkalai or Vadakalai. dasan k.S. tAtAchAr -----Original Message----- From: Kannan AMR <kamr@xxxxxxx> To: SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:52:56 -0400 Subject: RE: [SriRangaSri] Venkatesa Suprabatham - Author Sri Prathivadhi Bhayangaram Annan is a unique poorvacharya who has composed Sri Sukthis on Swami Desikan (Sapthadhi Rathna Malika) and Swami Manavala Mamunigal (Sri Vara Vara Muni suprabhatham etc). Sri Annan did his Sri Bhashya kalakshepam under Kumara Varadhacharyar (Swami Desikan's son) and won a debate with an Advaitin (Narasimha Misra) and established the supremacy of Vishistadwita Siddhanta got the title 'Prathivadhi Bhayankaram' from his Acharyan Kumara Varadacharyar. Sri Anna became a disciple of Swamy Manavala Mamunigal and was one of the Ashta Dighgajas (Eight indomitable Acharyas) to propagate SriVaishnava philosophy. His thaniyan sloka says he is the receptor of Sri Desikan's Kataksham and Sri Mamunigal's Karunai. VedantaDesika Kataksha Vivruththa Bhodham Kanthobhayanthrumina: Karunaika pathram Vathsaanvavaaya manavadhya Gunairubhedham Bhakthya Bhajami Prathivadhi Bhayangararyam Also on a sidenote, I don't think we could classify many of our poorvacharyas as either Thenkalai or Vadakalai. Sri Pillai Lokachariar, Sri Desikan, Sri Periyavachchan Pillai, Sri Manavala Mamunigal, Sri Annan and many other Acharyas belong to the entire Sri Vaishanva community. Without Sri Mamunigal's commentary on Periyazhwar Thirumozhi how could we ever understand Azhwar's Bhagavadh anubahvams? Another striking example is Sri Ranga Ramanuja muni, who is a prominent acharya of Munithrya Sampradhayam. Without Sri Ranga Ramanuja Muni's commentary on all the major upanishads (Sri Ranga Ramanuja Muni has written commentaries for all the major Upanishads except Isa and Supalah, because Sri Sruthaprakasika Bhattar has written a commentary on Supalopanishadh and Sri Desikan and Sri Kura Narayana Jeer Swami has written commentaries on Isavashya) based on Vishistadwita philosophy, it would be highly difficult understand the esoteric meanings of these upanishads. Even the recent acharyas like Sri Uththamoor Swami and Kanchipuram PBA swami has done so much to our sampradhayam, they truly belong to our entire SriVaishanava community. Though these acharyas had some difference of opinions on certain things, still they did not create a dharshanam or religion of their own. Every one of them contributed towards Sri Ramanuja Dharshanam. Let us follow whatever sampradhyam we belong to, and at the same time respect and appreciate all the works done by our poorvacharyas. Adiyen Ramanujadasan Kannan -----Original Message----- From: SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:SriRangaSri%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:SriRangaSri%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Vasan Sriranga Chari Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 2:21 AM To: Sridharan Cc: SriRangaSri@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:SriRangaSri%40yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [SriRangaSri] Venkatesa Suprabatham - Author Dear all: This SRIMAD PRATIVADI BHAYANKARAM ANNANGARACHARIAR SWAMI is different from another namesake who lived until recently in Kanchipuram and whose KaalakshEpams I had the Bhaghyam of attending as a school boy. Dasoham Anbil Ramaswamy ======================================================================== =========================================================== SRIMATE RAMANUJAYA NAMAHA, The venkatesa suprabhatam is composed by SRIMAD PRATIVADI BHAYANKARAM ANNA who was shishya of SWAMI MANAVALA MUNIGAL of 14th century.He talks of SWAMI MANAVALA MUNIGAL in this composition. dasan On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 Sridharan wrote : >Hello All, > >I would like to know who wrote the Venkatesa Suprabatham. Also is there >a link where i can find the translation for the Solgam? > >Sridhar > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------ Yahoo! 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