[B-Greek] hA in Col 2:17a

jason at hareplay.com jason at hareplay.com
Tue Mar 2 06:41:01 EST 2004


hA is the relative pronounce, neuter nominative plural, "which things."

ESTIN is the third person singular present indicative of EIMI ("to be").
Neuter plurals often take a singular verb, so this is "are."

hA ESTIN = "which things are..." As for the movable nu, I think ESTIN is
surely the most common way of finding this form in the NT. I would just get
used to seeing it -- no matter what follows. ;-)

As a side, EISTIN is not the form of "they are," but EISIN (no tau).

Regards,
Jason A. Hare
Missouri Southern State University - Joplin
Undergrad Spanish Major
jason at hareplay.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug &Val McEachern" <applejuice at ozemail.com.au>
To: "B_GREEK" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 4:51 AM
Subject: [B-Greek] hA in Col 2:17a


Greetings one and all.  This is my first post here, being at the 'b' part of
basic in my efforts to learn at home, NT Greek.

I realise that I am jumping ahead of my knowledge level here, however is it
not true that one develops an interest/need which leads to learning rather
that the otherway round?

I have limited resources as yet, a text book poorly written I.M.H.O. and a
basic-ish lexicon.
In looking at Col 2:17 (a)  I see   hA ESTIN SKEIA TWN MELLONTWN.
I think ESTIN = (it) is, 3rd person singular present tense of the verb, 'to
be'; SKEIA = shadow, but I have found no information on what either the
meaning or the influence of     hA  has on ESTIN or any other of the text.
If my understanding of ESTIN is correct, hA seems to drastically alter it
somehow going by comparison of various English translations.  Also, since
ESTIN is followed by SKEIA I gather there is no hard and fast rule regarding
the movable (Nu)?
One more question please, since Paul is talking about the observance of holy
days, feasts and Sabbaths, why is ESTIN used and not EISTIN 3rd person
plural?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Doug McEachern
applejuice at ozemail.com.au
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