[B-Greek] Rev 3:10
Polycarp66 at aol.com
Polycarp66 at aol.com
Sat Mar 13 14:49:07 EST 2004
In a message dated 3/13/2004 1:43:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
kopio at comcast.net writes:
I've been looking at this passage for the last couple of days.
REV 3:10 KAGW SE THRHSW EK THS WRAS TOU PEIRASMOU THS MELLOUSHS ERCESQAI
k.t.l.
What I am wondering is how to take the EK THS WRAS....from (as in Jn 17:15)
the hour, or out of the hour. I am wrestling with this phrase for a term
paper. I have read a bunch of commentaries, and a good portion of them
disagree (shocking, I know) with each other. What I want to know is if any
of you think there is any solid grammatical/syntactical reasons for
preferring one or the other (from or out of). I would like to keep the
conversation focused on the grammar/syntax and not on the
theological/interpretive issues....although I would gladly accept offlist
replies of that nature.
___________
You might also take a look at Jn 17.15 where a very similar construction is
used
OUK ERWTW hINA ARHiS AUTOUS EK TOU KOSMOU, ALL' hINA THRHSHiS AUTOUS EK TOU
PONHROU
Also, a related concept is in the Pater Noster in Mt 6 although the
preposition there is APO rather than EK.
KAI MH EISENEGKHiS hHMAS EIS PEIRASMON,
ALLA hRUSAI hHMAS APO TOU PONHROU.
With the verb THREW I would be inclined to understand it as "keep from."
With the verb hRUOMAI I would be inclined to understand it as "deliver us OUT OF."
gfsomsel
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