[B-Greek] 1 Cor 6:16

Arie Dirkzwager dirkzwager at pandora.be
Tue Mar 23 07:10:19 EST 2004


Doug,

In my message I did not write about the grammatical gender of SWMA. I meant
that SWMA was used merely to indicate the body, without positive or negative
judgments or theological connotations.

Arie


Dr. A. Dirkzwager
e-mail dirkzwager at pandora.be

----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
Van: "Doug &Val McEachern" <applejuice at ozemail.com.au>
Aan: "B_GREEK" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Verzonden: maandag 22 maart 2004 23:59
Onderwerp: Re: [B-Greek] 1 Cor 6:16


> Dr. Airie, thanks for your input.
> I'm not sure I understand your meaning when you refer to SWMA being
neutral.
> Are you referring to it being neuter gender or rather just neutral in the
> sense of being a generalisation with no specific or definitive action
> intended?
> The later is the meaning I am taking til or unless you correct me.
> I do apologise for the delay in my reply, I just get caught up at times.
>
>
> Doug  McEachern
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arie Dirkzwager" <dirkzwager at pandora.be>
> To: "Doug &Val McEachern" <applejuice at ozemail.com.au>; "B_GREEK"
> <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 10:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [B-Greek] 1 Cor 6:16
>
>
> > Interesting questions.
> > In your text the word SWMA is neutral. Already in verse 15 it is the
body
> > without further connotations.
> > In quoting the OT the word SARX is used.
> > In Col 1: 22 Paul uses both words without influence of the OT text: EN
TWi
> > SWMATI THS SARKOS. By adding SARX he expresses the view that the body of
> > Christ was really a normal "fleshy" body. Probably his opponents were
> early
> > gnostics who despised the body. I think he uses some irony or humour
> because
> > the major blessing Christ gives originated EN TWi SWMATI THS SARKOS.
> > So if you would like to make a difference, SARX highlights the functions
> or
> > the "material" of the body, whereas SWMA is more neutral.
> >
> > I think that the biblical notion of becoming one flesh means that after
> > sexual intercourse the two persons can be seen as two parts of one body.
> > Splitting them by devorce would be as absurd as splitting the body of
one
> > person.
> > And being a part of the body of a prostitute .......
> >
> > Arie
> >
> >
> >
> > Dr. A. Dirkzwager
> > Hoeselt, Belgium
> > e-mail dirkzwager at pandora.be
> >
> > ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> > Van: "Doug &Val McEachern" <applejuice at ozemail.com.au>
> > Aan: "B_GREEK" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Verzonden: woensdag 10 maart 2004 10:55
> > Onderwerp: [B-Greek] 1 Cor 6:16
> >
> >
> > Greetings to all B_GREEK people, I have question which is likely not
> welcome
> > for discussion on this list so I hope someone will undertake to address
it
> > off list.
> > My question is why Paul uses SWMA and SARX or SARKA in the same
sentence.
> > Exactly what distinction is meant by 'one body' and 'one flesh'.
Certainly
> > the later is God's ideal, whereas the former falls short of God's
purpose.
> > >From the text, is it legitimate to understand that though inferior, the
> > 'one body' becomes a sort of one flesh substitute?
> > One flesh by default?  Or is Paul drawing a clear contrast between the
> two,
> > and saying perhaps that the former becomes a person of the same
substance
> > and hence indistinguishable from the prostitute?   In other words
> > effectively a prostitute also?   A sort of backward step of losing his
> > identity instead of  a forward step of creating a new identity.  I guess
> > this is a question of interpretation and so I would be appreciative of
any
> > Greek language based help that can be given off list.( or on list if
that
> is
> > possible)
> >
> > My E-mail address is applejuice at ozemail.com.au  it would be most helpful
> if
> > the following E-mail address could be inserted in the cc field as well
> > olszta at comcast.net
> >
> > Thank you very much in anticipation,
> >
> > Doug McEachern
> >
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