[B-Greek] philip 3:12b 3rd class conditional?

john umland johnumland at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 23 13:58:25 EST 2004


If so be that ei (NT:1487) kai (NT:2532). "I follow
after." The condition (third class, ei (NT:1487) ...
katalaboo (NT:2638), second aorist active subjunctive
of katalambanoo (NT:2638)) is really a sort of purpose
clause or aim. There are plenty of examples in the
Koine of the use of ei (NT:1487) and the subjunctive
as here (Robertson, Grammar, p. 1017), "if I also may
lay hold of that for which ef' (NT:1909) hoo
(NT:3739), purpose expressed by epi (NT:1909) I was
laid hold of kateleemftheen (NT:2638), first aorist
passive of the same verb katalambanoo (NT:2638) by
Christ Jesus." His conversion was the beginning, not
the end of the chase.
(from Robertson's Word Pictures in the New Testament,
Electronic Database. Copyright (c) 1997 by Biblesoft &
Robertson's Word Pictures in the New Testament.
Copyright (c) 1985 by Broadman Press)

--- "Carl W. Conrad" <cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu>
wrote:
> At 7:46 AM -0800 3/23/04, john umland wrote:
> >DIWKW DE EI KAI KATALABW EF hW KAI KATELHMFQHN hUPO
> >CRISTOU
> >
> >i read that this is a third class conditional
> although
> >it is not EAN + subjunctive but EI + subj. Can
> >KATELHMFQHN be taken as the protasis and KATALABW
> as
> >the apodosis? Robertson and Bruce call this a
> purpose
> >clause. How so?
> 
> Where did you read that? I don't think that DIWKW is
> the apodosis of a
> conditional construction but rather than the EI +
> subjunctive clause here
> is an indirect question--and that is what we find in
> BDAG s.v. EI 5.b.beta:
> 
> "w. subj. DIWKW EI KAI KATALABW I press on (to see)
> whether I can capture
> Phil 3:12 (B-D-F §368; 375; Rob. 1017)."
> --
> 
> Carl W. Conrad
> Department of Classics, Washington University
> (Emeritus)
> 1989 Grindstaff Road/Burnsville, NC 28714/(828)
> 675-4243
> cwconrad at artsci.wustl.edu
> WWW: http://www.ioa.com/~cwconrad/


John Umland

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john p umland

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