[B-Greek] 1 cor 10:9 TON KURION referent?

Bryant J. Williams III bjwvmw at com-pair.net
Sun Sep 21 02:16:13 EDT 2008


Dear Elizabeth & James,

I Corinthians 10:1-10 is one unit with 1-5 and 6-10 the two sections dealing
with examples (TUPOI) from the Israelite Wanderings in the Wilderness. The
allusions that James Ernest refers to are the following;

10:1-2 // Exodus 14-15
10:3-4 // Exodus 16-17
10:5 is a summary statement of all those who, in their idolatry/unbelief,
perished in the wilderness wandering of 40 years.
10:6 is a statement by Paul that the Corinthians should not do the same things
that the Israelites did in the wilderness; although one could argue they
frequently did it to the day of the Assyrian and Babylonian Exiles.
10:7 // Clearly refers to Exodus 32:6 and the Golden Calf Incident.
10:8 // Number 25:1-9 and the Sexual Immorality brought on the worship of the
gods of the Moabites. Paul is clearly linking sexual immorality and idolatry.
For it is in this incident that the Israelites attended by invitation the
sacrifice to the Moabite gods, ate those same sacrifices and then bowed down to
those gods/idols.
10:9 // Numbers 21:5-6 and the Fiery Serpent Incident (note the use by Christ in
John 3:14) in which the continual murmuring of the Israelites (equivalent to
testing God/Christ/LORD; cf. Exodus 17:2,7 where the Israelites are condemned
for "testing the Lord") is brought out. The textual problem whether it refers to
Christ, LORD (YHWH = KURIOS), or God (QEOS) is not really a problem since Paul
has used Christ in verse 4. This is also explicit in the I Corinthians 8:1-8
especially with the reference to Deuteronomy 6:4 in 8:5-6 (MT:YHWH = LXX:
KURIOS). In fact, this is the only place in the NT that parallels the use of
God//Lord to Deuteronomy 6:4 and the Shema.
10:10 This is most likely referring to the Destroying Angel found in several
places in the Old Testament (Exod 12:23; II Sam 24:16; I Chron 21:12; II Chron
32:21, hO OLOQREUTHS).

I would recommend one use the following:
G.K. Beale & D.A/ Carson, editors of ***Commentary on the NT Used of the OT,***
Roy E. Ciampa and Brian S Rosner,  "I Corinthians," pp. 716-726 especially
724-726.

BTW, Matthew 4:7, 2nd Temptation, has Jesus quoting Deuteronomy 6:16, EFH AUTWi
hO IHSOUS hUPAGH SATANA GEGRAPTAI  OUK **EKPEIRASEIS** KURION TON QEON SOU
(Emphasis is mine).

En Xristwi,

Rev. Bryant J. Williams III



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Ernest" <j.d.ernest at bc.edu>
To: "B-Greek" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] 1 cor 10:9 TON KURION referent?


> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 2:48 PM, Elizabeth Kline
> <kline_dekooning at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > IHSOUN is the object numerous times, but only by his personal enemies.
> > I can't recall seeing a passage where the disciples are warned not to
> > (EK)PEIRAZEIN IHSOUN.
>
> No, but I wonder what verb would have been used for Peter's address to
> Jesus if Matt 16:22 had been summarized rather than narrated with
> direct discourse, or if it had been narrated from Jesus' point of view
> (seems to me that EPITIMAN is what Peter thought he was doing, but
> 16:23 switches to Jesus' point of view and says Peter's thinking was
> backward). Maybe the same verb as in Matt 4:1 (PEIRASQHNAI hUPO TOU
> DIABOLOU). This episode is (in part) a warning to disciples in
> narrative form, no? This is an (EK)PEIRAZEIN IHSOUN passage although
> that verb is lacking on the surface.
>
> James Ernest
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