[B-Greek] XWRIS TELOYS vs. META TELOYS and EXEI TELOS

Randall Buth randallbuth at gmail.com
Mon Sep 22 14:59:04 EDT 2008


On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Randall Buth <randallbuth at gmail.com> wrote:
> Kimmo egrapse
>
>>Few grammatical terms are as unfortunate as the aorist:
> hH AORISTH OYIS (aspect) OUK ESTIN CWRIS hOROU ALL' ECEI TELOS. TOUT' ESTIN:
> hH AORISTH OYIS hORISTH ESTIN. hH DE PARATATIKOS (imperfect) CRONOS AORISTOS
> ESTIN EN OYEI (aspectually) MH ECON TELOS MHDE hOROU (EN OYEI LOGOU, within
> the scope of predication) . DIA GAR TI hOI hELLHNES WNOMAZON THN AORISTHN
> OYIN AORISTHN? OUK OIDA. TAXA hH LEXIS ECEI DYNAMIN "pragmatically unmarked"?
> hO AORISTOS CRONOS ESTIN PARELHLUQWS CRONOS (CWRIS TINWN DYNAMEWN OUK ECOUSWN
> CRONON). DIONYSIOS hO QRAIKOS EN THi TECNHi GRAMMATIKHi ENOMIZE hOTI CRONOS
> ESTIN KAI MOI DOKEI hOTI ORQWS ENOMIZE (CWRIS ANWMALIWN :-) ).
>>
>
>
> DIA TI? ERWTAS.
>
> DIA TO MH PROSTIQENAI TI THN  AORISTHN OPSIN.
> H PARATAIKH OPSIS PROSTIQHSI "TO XWRIS TELOYS EINAI"
> H PARAKEIMENH OPSIS PROSTIQHSI OTI TO PRAGMA ESTHKE.
> ALLA H AORISTOS OYDEN PROSTIQHSI.
>
> It is the 'none of the above' aspect, and yes as you mentioned,
> the Greeks themselves call it a tense, because in the indicative the aorist
> aspect is joined with the past tense.
> Just like they called the PARATATIKOS XRONOS 'the extending time' since
> it was "open-ended, extending", and had a past tense.
>
>
>
> --
> Randall Buth, PhD
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> randallbuth at gmail.com
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>

PS: On reading my own post  I see that both Kimmo and I misspelled
THN AORISTON OPSIN.
My second mention was correct H AORISTOS.


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