[B-Greek] 1Cor. 15:50 SARX KAI hAIMA, 1 Jn 4:2 SARKI

Mark Lightman lightmanmark at yahoo.com
Fri Mar 12 19:52:00 EST 2010


Paul believes that at the Second Coming of Jesus, the
flesh of believers will be changed into a SWMA PNEUMATIKON.
(ALLAGHSOMEQA 1 Cor 15:51)  Jesus' flesh has already been
 so changed.  John and Luke probably
believe the same thing, but it appears that, unlike Paul, Luke (24:39) and
possibly John (1 Jn 4:2?)  still use the word SARX for this glorified
body.  I would not call it a contradiction, but just that Paul
has given it more thought, and chooses not to call the changed
flesh SARX.  John and Luke would probably tell you it is not
the same kind of flesh, which is basically what Paul says in
1 Cor 15.
 
Mark L
Φωσφορος

FWSFOROS MARKOS

--- On Fri, 3/12/10, Vasileios Tsialas <tsialas78 at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Vasileios Tsialas <tsialas78 at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] 1Cor. 15:50 SARX KAI hAIMA, 1 Jn 4:2 SARKI
To: kline_dekooning at earthlink.net, "B-Greek Lists" <b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 4:53 PM



The only linguistic think I can say is that σαρξ in these two verses of Luke surely doesn't refer to the human being as a whole, but to the flesh/meat as the material of human body. I believe BDAG does the same distinction.
Vasileios Tsialas
Athens, Greece
> > 
> > Just to confuse matters further, Luke in  Luke 24:39 uses SARX in reference to the risen Christ. So I would venture a guess that Luke's use of the term is different from Paul's use in 1Cor. 15:50. 
> > 
> > Luke 24:39 ἴδετε τὰς χεῖράς μου καὶ τοὺς πόδας μου ὅτι ἐγώ εἰμι αὐτός· ψηλαφήσατέ με καὶ ἴδετε, ὅτι πνεῦμα σάρκα καὶ ὀστέα οὐκ ἔχει καθὼς ἐμὲ θεωρεῖτε ἔχοντα. 
>> > Luke 24:39 IDETE TAS CEIRAS MOU KAI TOUS PODAS MOU hOTI EGW EIMI AUTOS· YHLAFHSATE ME KAI IDETE, hOTI PNEUMA SARKA KAI OSTEA OUK ECEI KAQWS EME QEWREITE ECONTA
> > 
> > 
> > See also:
> > Acts 2:31 προϊδὼν ἐλάλησεν περὶ τῆς ἀναστάσεως τοῦ Χριστοῦ ὅτι οὔτε ἐγκατελείφθη εἰς ᾅδην οὔτε ἡ σὰρξ αὐτοῦ εἶδεν διαφθοράν.
> > 
> > Acts 2:31 PROI+DWN ELALHSEN PERI THS ANASTASEWS TOU CRISTOU hOTI OUTE EGKATELEIFQH EIS hAiDHN OUTE hH SARX AUTOU EIDEN DIAFQORAN.
> > 
> > 
> > Elizabeth Kline
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