[B-Greek] needing help
James Ernest
j.d.ernest at bc.edu
Thu May 6 20:12:33 EDT 2010
Well, I'll slop out a draft of your first quotation for others to clean up:
And while faith stirs [a person] up to labors, love makes [a person] endure
toils. "Before our God and Father"--i.e., do these things [in order to be]
pleasing to God, so that faith in Christ and orientation toward him may be
seen to be what pleases God. "And of patient endurance," it says. For that
persecution was not just for one time, but perpetual. So then do all these
things, it says, out of faith and out of hope. So then the things that
happened demonstrated not only their courage but the fact that they trusted
in the fullest way amid the struggles that lay in store for them. It was for
this reason that God permitted persecutions to arise at once, lest anyone
should say that the preaching was established superficially and insincerely,
and so that their ardor might be demonstrated, and the fact that it was not
a human persuasion but a power from God that persuaded the souls of those
who believed in such a way that they were ready to face a thousand
deaths--which would not have been the case, if the preaching had not
immediately been deeply planted and stood unshakeable.
James Ernest
2010/5/2 <jlitteral5 at roadrunner.com>
> I am working on a patristic catena on 1 Thessalonians, and I am really
> needing help with some paragraphs and extracts from Cramer's catena, and I
> was hoping I could get a couple of extracts translated, one from Severian
> and the other from Theodore of Mopsuestia. Any help would be greatly
> appreciated. If anybody even offers a translation service with a fee I am
> considering going that route for the future.
>
> Severian
> και η μεν πιστος εγειρει προς καματους, η δε αγαπη επιμενειν ποιει τοις
> πονοις. "εμπροσθεν του Θεου και "Πατρος ημων," ινα ειπη οτι αρεσκοντες τω
> Θεω ταυτα ποιειτε, ωστε φανηναι Θεου αρεσκειαν την επι τον Χριστον πιστιν
> και την περι αυτον διαθεσιν. και της υπομονης, φησιν. ου γαρ προς ενα χρονον
> ο διωγμος εκεινος, αλλα δια παντος. ταυτα τοινυν, φησι, παντα απο πιστεως
> ποιειτε και ελπιδος. ωστε ου την ανδρειαν αυτων μονον εδηλου τα γινομενα,
> αλλ οτι και μετα πληροφοριας επιστευον τοις αποκειμενοις επαθλοις· δια γαρ
> τουτο συνεχωρει ο Θεος ευθεως γινεσθαι διωγμους, ινα το θερμον αυτων δειχθη,
> και οτι ου πεισμονη ανθρθπινη, αλλα Θεου δυναμις ην, η τας των πιστευοντων
> ψυχας πειθουσα, ωστε και προς θανατους μυριους παρεσκευασθαι· υπερ ουκ αν
> ην, ει μη ευθεως κατα βαθος το κηρυγμα πεπηγει, κι εστηκεν ακλινες.
>
>
> Theodore
> Αλλος φησι· "λογον Κυριου," ενταυθα ου την πιστιν λεγει· ου γαρ η πιστις απ
> αυτων ελαβε την αρχην, αλλ αντι του παντες εγνωσαν οσα υπερ της πιστεως
> επαθετε, και παντες υμων το βεβαιον θαυμαζουσι της πιστεως, ωστε και
> προτροπην ετεροις γενεσθαι τα υμετερα· επισημαντεον δε, φησιν, οτι εν τη των
> ειδωλων αναχωρησει τον Θεον και ζωντα και αληθινον προσειπεν προς
> αντιδιαστολην εκεινων, ωστε οπου ποτ αν την θωνην ευρισκομεν ταυτην, ειδεναι
> χρη οτι μητε επι Πατρος εις αναιρεσιν λεγεται Υιου, μητε εφ Υιου εις
> αναιρεσιν Πατρος, ομοιως αληθινιου Πατρος και Υιου παρα τοις ευσεβεσιν.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> John Litteral
>
> jlitteral5 at roadrunner.com
>
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