[B-Greek] PNEUMA hAGION as a proper name

Eric S. Weiss papaweiss1 at yahoo.com
Thu May 13 16:24:21 EDT 2010


> Blue Meeksbay wrote: 
> 
> When we do this I think it is reasonable to see what the writer of the Gospel of John believed regarding the Holy 
> Spirit. I think one will see he believed the Spirit was more than just an influence or function, but understood him as a 
> Person..
> 
> JOHN 16:13 hOTAN DE ELQHi EKEINOS, TO PNEUMA THS ALHQEIAS, hODHGHSEI hUMAS EN THi ALHQEIAi 
> PASHi• OU GAR LALHSEI AF᾽ hEAUTOU, ALL᾽ hOSA AKOUSEI LALHSEI KAI TA ERCOMENA ANAGGELEI 
> hUMIN.
> 
> *But when He comes, the Spirit of Truth…*
> 
> Here we have the masculine pronoun EKEINOSjoined with the neuter PNEUMA in apposition, thereby showing the 
> Spirit is more than just a function, at least in the mind of John. He repeatedly uses EKEINOSas is seen below.
 
Blue Meeksbay:

Having looked at these PNEUMA hAGION passages in GJohn re: the person-ness of the Holy Spirit, I think it can be 
argued/demonstrated that in every instance in which a masculine pronoun is used, the antecedent is the masculine 
PARAKLHTOS and not the neuter PNEUMA. There is I think one verse where it may be a bit of a stretch because of 
the distance between the antecedent and the pronoun, but it's not an unreasonable stretch.

Hence, I don't think one can argue from GJohn that the author used the masculine pronoun EKEINOS for a neuter noun 
PNEUMA to indicate the Person Being-ness of the PNEUMA hAGION, because he in fact did not use EKEINOS for 
PNEUMA, but for PARAKLHTOS.
 
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Eric S. Weiss 


      


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