[B-Greek] 2 Peter 1:20 and context
George F Somsel
gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Fri May 28 20:13:39 EDT 2010
20 TOUTO PRWTON GIN2WKONTES hOTI PASA PROFHTEIA GRAFHS IDIAS EPILUSEWS OU GINETAI; 21 OU GAR QELHMATI ANQRWPOU HNEXQH PROFHTEIA POTE, ALLA hUPO PNEUMATOS APO QEOU ANQRWPOI.
20τοῦτο πρῶτον γινώσκοντες ὅτι πᾶσα προφητεία γραφῆς ἰδίας ἐπιλύσεως οὐ γίνεται· 21οὐ γὰρ θελήματι ἀνθρώπου ἠνέχθη προφητεία ποτέ, ἀλλὰ ὑπὸ πνεύματος ἁγίου φερόμενοι ἐλάλησαν ἀπὸ θεοῦ ἄνθρωποι.
I don't think that will work. Προφήτης is not mentioned. The nearest reference is προφητεία so that ἴδιος (ἰδίας) must reference that.
george
gfsomsel
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From: Kimmo Huovila <kimmo.huovila at kolumbus.fi>
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 1:36:31 PM
Subject: Re: [B-Greek] 2 Peter 1:20 and context
Could the whole thought be paraphrased as "no prophesy is ever a matter of the
prophet's personal resolution/interpretation (of God's will/message), but they
spoke words from God as they are being carried along (inspired) by the Holy
Spirit"? In other words, never is a prophesy the result of the prophets
interpretation but rather it is given by inspiration. This is an attempt to
combine Iver's point about the relationship between the two verses and Carl's
point about the lack of preposition.
TI hUMIN DOKEI?
Kimmo Huovila
On torstai 27 toukokuu 2010, Carl Conrad wrote:
> I really think that GINETAI is more a copula than a verb of generation, and
I
> think that IDIAS EPILUSEWS must be a predicate genitive: "isn't ever a
> matter of personal resolution/interpretation." I don't think there's any
parallel
> of GINETAI with FERW and LALEW and I don't think that IDIAS EPILUSEWS
> as a genitive phrase without a preposition can have an instrumental sense. I
just
> don't think that IDIAS EPILUSEWS OU GINETAI is at all parallel to hUPO
> PNEUMATOS hAGIOU FEROMENOI ELALHSAN APO QEOU ANQRWPOI.
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