[B-Greek] Mt 6:15 AFHTE vs. AFIETE

George F Somsel gfsomsel at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 24 00:23:28 EDT 2011


It is an aor subj so it would not be "have forgiven" (as though it were a 
perf).  It indicates a time antecedent to the divine forgiveness -- "If you do 
not forgive men, neither will your father forgive you."  There is probably 
little distinction, but let's try to keep things straight.  It is known as a 
third class condition or a future condition.  It would seem to be a general 
condition.

 george
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From: Oun Kwon <kwonbbl at gmail.com>
To: b-greek at lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Wed, March 23, 2011 8:35:41 PM
Subject: [B-Greek] Mt 6:15 AFHTE vs. AFIETE

Mt 6:15 EAN DE MH AFHTE TOIS ANQRWPOIS TA PARAPTWMATA AUTWN, OUDE hO PATHR
hUMWN AFHSEI TA PARAPTWMATA hUMWN.

ἐὰν δὲ μὴ ἀφῆτε τοῖς ἀνθρώποις τὰ παραπτώματα αὐτῶν, οὐδὲ ὁ
πατὴρ ὑμῶν ἀφήσει τὰ παραπτώματα ὑμῶν.

I would like to check to see I'm right to take AFHTE (subj. aort) as 'if you
HAVE FORGIVEN', differently from AFIETE (present) ('if you FORGIVE') which
is found in a parallel verse Mk 11:26 (v.l.)  EI DE hUMEIS OUK AFIETE. My
question seems to be on the nuance of aorist.

Oun Kwon
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