[B-Greek] Mt 6:15 AFHTE vs. AFIETE

Oun Kwon kwonbbl at gmail.com
Thu Mar 24 01:02:46 EDT 2011


On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 12:23 AM, George F Somsel <gfsomsel at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> It is an aor subj so it would not be "have forgiven" (as though it were a perf).  It indicates a time antecedent to the divine forgiveness -- "If you do not forgive men, neither will your father forgive you."  There is probably little distinction, but let's try to keep things straight.  It is known as a third class condition or a future condition.  It would seem to be a general condition.
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> george
> gfsomsel
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Taking together with 6:12 (with v.l. in aorist), I feel, it seems more
natural to take it as antecedent to the speaker's time, (with the
divine forgiveness to be a future relative to the speaker's time of
asking forgiveness).

The scenario I have in mind is:  We have forgiven. Then, upon asking
God to forgive us, He is going to forgive us. If we have not, He is
not going to.

I hope I have expressed well enough for you to see my line of understanding.

Oun Kwon.



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