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Re: [nafex] Juneberries and CAR

I have had two Regent Juneberry shrubs for 15-20 years and this year almost
all of the berries are shrunken.  I always have had good luck before with
pollination and no bugs.  We had a wierd winter and spring.  We had no
winter to speak of as the weather got to 20 above at the lowest temp. and
then had a cool dry spring.  I have 4 apricots that are loaded ( a rare
occurance as I am in Zone 4 in the Loess Hills of western Iowa).  Do you
think this was a pollination problem or something else?   Judson L. Frisk

----- Original Message -----
From: Lon J. Rombough <lonrom@hevanet.com>
To: <nafex@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nafex] Juneberries and CAR

> Here (western Oregon), the Canadian varieties get about 75 to 90% rust,
> while the local species get about 5% rust.  Definitely there is a need for
> local selection.
> -Lon Rombough
> Grapes, unusual fruits, writing, more, at http://www.hevanet.com/lonrom
> ----------
> >From: "Kieran or Donna" <redherring@tnaccess.com>
> >To: <nafex@egroups.com>
> >Subject: Re: [nafex] Juneberries and CAR
> >Date: Wed, Jun 7, 2000, 12:07 PM
> >
> >    A couple of weeks ago I fought my way through the brush to one of the
> >wild Juneberries I discovered last year.  It had bloomed this spring and
> >hoped to beat the birds to the berries.  I found weird lumpy things
> >from it, a bit too large to be berries.  I picked one off and found my
> >fingers powdered with yellow stuff.  The leaves don't seem to have Cedar
> >Apple rust on them, but it appears the berries themselves, every one of
> >them, have become cedar rust "apples".
> >    This may explain why Juneberries are not exactly taking over our
> >Also why in 16 years of foraging in Tennessee, I have eaten exactly 4
> >Juneberries in the wild.  I just bought 2 Regent juneberry bushes, I
> >I'll find out the hard way if they are as susceptible as the local
> >    I have tried repeatedly to grow sweet huckleberries here (Peters Seed
> >and Research sells the seeds).  My conclusion this, the 4th year, is that
> >they are simply too closely related to indigenous plants, but with no
> >resistance.  The plants serve as food for flea beetles, blister beetles,
> >some kind of leaf roller caterpillar, horse nettle bugs, and lacebugs.
> >horse nettle bug is like a potato bug but with gray larva and a more
> >handsome adult, I have no idea what it's real name is.  I have seen it
> >misidentified as a potato bug, but it rarely feeds on potatoes.)
> >    I tried once to grow chickpeas, and though the blight was expected,
> >finding a caterpillar in each pod was not.  I believe that they attracted
> >local bug that normally feeds on rattlebox.
> >    It gets frustrating when you can't grow native species, and you can't
> >grow foreign ones either!    Donna
> >P.S.  Our one native chestnut in the woods succumbed to blight this
> >
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