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RE: [compost_tea] Any Comments or reply to this?



Great more bandying about of results with questionable validity. Nelson at Cornell and Ingham have pretty clearly shown inhibition assays are not very reliable indicators. Representing tea as an “icide” is precisely why we need standards. Too many folks are representing CT in the same light as chemicals. CT use is a change in paradigm, a different gardening methodology. Personally I’m glad some states are not allowing tea producers to make unfounded claims. My workplace is constantly being referred to as an example of tea curing disease.  No diseases were cured. We embraced sustainable practices. Careful monitoring of soil biology, elimination of agri- horticultural chemicals and incorporation of tested composts and APC (humus purchased form Alaska), are a PART of the program. As a result we have better nutrient cycling, soils with structure and improving set of organisms able to keep the pathogens at bay. Tea is an elixir when made a PART of a complete revamping of our gardening methodologies.  A patent for disease suppression if it exists, and I can’t find any such patent, would be criminal from my view. CT when combined with sustainable methods brings a balance back and creates an environment where diseases and pest insects have difficulty dominating.

 

 

All of the Monsanto programs I have attended were professional, but we’ve learned that hype and presentation are not necessarily akin to reliable, sustainable results.

 

Tom Jaszewski

www.livesoil.com

702-595-7012

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Lmvine1@cs.com [mailto:Lmvine1@cs.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 3:56 PM
To: compost_tea@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [compost_tea] Any Comments or reply to this?

 

In a message dated 1/30/2003 5:59:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, jeff@gardener.com writes:

Where is the proof on vermicompost? 

Cheers,

Jeff


I also was at the Viticulture meeting and G Hahn of Wormgold had pathogen inhibition analyses showing the different pathogens and tea made from Wormgold supressed or destroyed the pathogens.  I believe that most of the analyses were done at BBC labs.  Jeff, see this http://www.wormgold.com/test_3.html

If memory serves me right he said that he had gotten a patent on Wormgold for disease supression.  Was told that the specific diet fed the worms produces chitosan (sp?) inhibitors. 

The presentations were all professional but would be viewed as mostly basic to grape growers on this list.  Most conventional growers were pretty overwhelmed at the data and paradigm shift. 

One thing emphasized and I agree with is there is no silver bullet. 

Dan Lynch
Long Mountain Vineyard

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