Dear Sriman Vijay, Thank you for the clarification. I enjoyed the explanation of the pASuram a lot. Best regards Vishnu -- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Vijay Triplicane <vijay.triplicane@xxxx> wrote: > Dear Sri Vishnu, > By nature, the jIvAs created by perumAL have knowledge and they > 'can' use it whichever way they want. SvAmi nammAzhvAr in his " > avar avar..." talks about how these jIvAs use their knowledge and > think that the lesser gods can provide what they want and worship > them. Our dear perumAL who is the LORD of all these demigods, > resides in them (antharyAmi) and grants the wishes of the > adhikARis. Let me briefly talk about the pAsuram first. > > Each and every individual jIvA/adhikAri (avar avar) > use their knowledge and do things accordingly(thama thamadhu aRivu aRi vagai > ) > They think those other Lords (avar avar) > as their SvAmi (iRaiyavar ena) > and worship them (adi adaivargaL) > > Those Lords being worshipped by the adhikArIs (avar avar iRaiyavar) > are Not incapable of giving them what they wanted ( kuRaivu ilar ) > (Those lords give the adhikArIs what they asked for, WHY? How is it?) > > Our dear perumAL, who is The Lord of all lords/sarva svAmi (iRaiyavar ) > makes sure that those adhikARis (avar avar) > based on their vidhi (vidhi vazhi) > get what they want by being the antharyAmi of these lords (adaiya > n^inRanaRE) > > The objective of the pAsuram is mainly to point out that the rakshaNam > of all the chetanas/achetanas are all completely done by our sarva svAmi. > This is not talking about the nirhethuka krupa of perumAL at all. The only > reason why I quoted this is for the first line where he says "thama > thamadhu > aRivu aRi vagai" - they do things based on how their knowledge dictates > them. > Based on their knowledge the adhikAris also think that they can take care of > > themselves independently. This is an absolute swarUpa virOdham, which their > knowledge doesn't point out! That is why, having this false sense of > independence, they don't realize the need for perumAL's krupa and "deny" His > > overflowing grace. They are in fact making an effort to stop His grace from > saving them. This false sense of independence is the classical virOdhi. > 'False' is the keyword here. As you have quoted from ashtaslOki by Sri > Bhattar, > we do not have any sort of freedom. That is the truth. But we fail to see > the > truth. In fact at the end of the pAsuram, he says that even those demigods > are > not independent and they act according to our dear perumAL. > > AzhvAr emperumAnAr jIyar thiruvadigaLE araNam, > adiyEn, > -Vijay Triplicane
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