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Sri:
Srimathe Ramanujaya nama:

Dear Devotee,
              Here we are discussing the mindset behind the act. As 
per sri piLLai lOkAcAryA's mumukshuppadi, mantras like gOpAla 
mantram, rAma mantram, hayagrIva etc are for certain benefits and 
lot of people write these namas for gaining something! AsTAkshari 
stands apart from all these that it explains the actual relation 
between the jIvAtmA and paramAtma that once the jIvAtmA catches 
and "understands" this point(and then practising it!), it shouldn't 
worry about itself.

Just for the same reason that you're saying 'there is nothing wrong 
in calling Om namO vEnkaTEshAya as asTAkshari', the objection was 
raised! vEnkaTEshAya mantram(or any other mantram) doesn't tell what 
is the relation between the jIvAtmA and paramAtmA. If you can call 
anything as asTAkshari, well, then you can call my name as 
asTAkshari also! There will be no end to this type of non-sensical 
talks. The objection raised by Sri guna venkat was wrt our attitude 
and not Jeeyar's attitude which is right. But our attitude is not at 
the same level as Jeeyar's attitude. With what mindset,people are 
wtiting these nAmAs is the question in concern. Thsi mindset depends 
only on the true understanding of the nArAyaNa mantram and not any 
other mantram. Hardcore R's devotees with more knowledge will talk 
on my behalf! 

nArAyaNa is the Super set and all other names are subsets and subset 
can never equal the Superset. Note that subset has some features of 
the superset but neither qualitatively nor quantitatively it equals 
the Superset. To illustrate the point, my favorite was(and still)is 
srIrAmA. But I didn't have the knowledge of the true relation 
between me and God until I understood nArAyaNa mantram. srIrAma 
mantram didn't give me that understanding! And precisely for the 
same reason(understanding of the nArAyaNa mantram)that my attitude 
towards everything has changed dramatically. Once people start 
labelling anything as asTAkshari, then it becomes some "X"s 
sampradAyam/mumukshuppadi and not srIrAmAnuja sampradAyam or 
sripiLLai's lokAcAryA's mumukshuppadi.  

dAsAnudAsI
NC Nappinnai 
  
--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Ramanujam Varada Srinivasa Thatta" 
<acharyatvsr@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> Dear Swamin,
> No doubt that "Om Namo Narayanaya" is THE ASHTAKSHARI. But by 
virtue of this 
> manthram possessing eight letters we can call it Venkatesa 
Ashtakshari. 
> Similarly maybe Naarasimha Ashtakshari.
> All manthrams are sacred for us like vaasudeva Manthram etc. In 
this context 
> there should be no objection to write or recite OM NAMO 
VENKATESAYA just as 
> we write Rama Koti.
> Adiyen,
> Dasan,
> Ramanujam.









azhwAr emberumAnAr jeeyAr thiruvadigalE saranam
 
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